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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 16:40:33 -0400 From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@...ldses.org> To: Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com> Cc: Masayoshi Mizuma <msys.mizuma@...il.com>, Eric Sandeen <sandeen@...deen.net>, "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@...cle.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>, Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@...ger.ca>, Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>, Masayoshi Mizuma <m.mizuma@...fujitsu.com>, linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-xfs <linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org>, jlayton@...hat.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] fs: i_version mntopt gets visible through /proc/mounts On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:44:55PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:20:05PM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > > My memory was that after Jeff Layton's i_version patches, there wasn't > > really a significant performance hit any more, so the ability to turn it > > off is no longer useful. > > Yes, I completely agree with you here. However, with some > filesystems allowing it to be turned off, we can't just wave our > hands and force enable the option. Those filesystems - if the > maintainers chose to always enable iversion - will have to go > through a mount option deprecation period before permanently > enabling it. I don't understand why. The filesystem can continue to let people set iversion or noiversion as they like, while under the covers behaving as if iversion is always set. I can't see how that would break any application. (Or even how an application would be able to detect that the filesystem was doing this.) --b. > > > But looking back through Jeff's postings, I don't see him claiming that; > > e.g. in: > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20171222120556.7435-1-jlayton@kernel.org/ > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nfs/20180109141059.25929-1-jlayton@kernel.org/ > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nfs/1517228795.5965.24.camel@redhat.com/ > > > > he reports comparing old iversion behavior to new iversion behavior, but > > not new iversion behavior to new noiversion behavior. > > Yeah, it's had to compare noiversion behaviour on filesystems where > it was understood that it couldn't actually be turned off. And, > realistically, the comaprison to noiversion wasn't really relevant > to the problem Jeff's patchset was addressing... > > Cheers, > > Dave. > -- > Dave Chinner > david@...morbit.com
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