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Date:   Fri, 11 Sep 2020 17:37:51 -0500
From:   Michael Larabel <Michael@...haelLarabel.com>
To:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:     Ted Ts'o <tytso@...gle.com>,
        Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@...ger.ca>,
        Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Kernel Benchmarking

On 9/11/20 5:07 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 9:19 AM Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> Ok, it's probably simply that fairness is really bad for performance
>> here in general, and that special case is just that - a special case,
>> not the main issue.
> Ahh. It turns out that I should have looked more at the fault path
> after all. It was higher up in the profile, but I ignored it because I
> found that lock-unlock-lock pattern lower down.
>
> The main contention point is actually filemap_fault(). Your apache
> test accesses the 'test.html' file that is mmap'ed into memory, and
> all the threads hammer on that one single file concurrently and that
> seems to be the main page lock contention.
>
> Which is really sad - the page lock there isn't really all that
> interesting, and the normal "read()" path doesn't even take it. But
> faulting the page in does so because the page will have a long-term
> existence in the page tables, and so there's a worry about racing with
> truncate.
>
> Interesting, but also very annoying.
>
> Anyway, I don't have a solution for it, but thought I'd let you know
> that I'm still looking at this.
>
>                  Linus

I've been running your EXT4 patch on more systems and with some 
additional workloads today. While not the original problem, the patch 
does seem to help a fair amount for the MariaDB database sever. This 
wasn't one of the workloads regressing on 5.9 but at least with the 
systems tried so far the patch does make a meaningful improvement to the 
performance. I haven't run into any apparent issues with that patch so 
continuing to try it out on more systems and other database/server 
workloads.

Michael

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