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Date:   Wed, 9 Dec 2020 19:48:09 +0800
From:   brookxu <brookxu.cn@...il.com>
To:     "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>
Cc:     adilger.kernel@...ger.ca, linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 4/8] ext4: add the gdt block of meta_bg to
 system_zone



Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote on 2020/12/9 12:34:
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 09:26:49AM +0800, brookxu wrote:
>>
>> Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote on 2020/12/3 23:08:
>>> On Sat, Nov 07, 2020 at 11:58:14PM +0800, Chunguang Xu wrote:
>>>> From: Chunguang Xu <brookxu@...cent.com>
>>>>
>>>> In order to avoid poor search efficiency of system_zone, the
>>>> system only adds metadata of some sparse group to system_zone.
>>>> In the meta_bg scenario, the non-sparse group may contain gdt
>>>> blocks. Perhaps we should add these blocks to system_zone to
>>>> improve fault tolerance without significantly reducing system
>>>> performance.
>>
>> Thanks, in the large-market scenario, if we deal with all groups,
>> the system_zone will be very large, which may reduce performance.
>> I think the previous method is good, but it needs to be changed
>> slightly, so that the fault tolerance in the meta_bg scenario
>> can be improved without the risk of performance degradation.
> 
> OK, I see.   But this is not actually reliable:
> 
>>>> +		if ((i < 5) || ((i % flex_size) == 0)) {
> 
> This only works if the flex_size is less than or equal to 64 (assuming
> a 4k blocksize).  That's because on 64-bit file systems, we can fit 64
> block group descripters in a 4k block group descriptor block, so
> that's the size of the meta_bg.  The default flex_bg size is 16, but
> it's quite possible to create a file system via "mke2fs -t ext4 -G
> 256".  In that case, the flex_size will be 256, and we would not be
> including all of the meta_bg groups.  So i % flex_size needs to be
> replaced by "i % meta_bg_size", where meta_bg_size would be
> initialized to EXT4_DESC_PER_BLOCK(sb).
> 
> Does that make sense?
Maybe I missed something. If i% meta_bg_size is used instead, if
flex_size <64, then we will miss some flex_bg. There seems to be
a contradiction here. In the scenario where only flex_bg is
enabled, it may not be appropriate to use meta_bg_size. In the
scenario where only meta_bg is enabled, it may not be appropriate
to use flex_size.

As you said before, it maybe better to remove

	if ((i <5) || ((i% flex_size) == 0))

and do it for all groups. 

In this way we won't miss some flex_bg, meta_bg, and sparse_bg.
I tested it on an 80T disk and found that the performance loss
was small:

 unpatched kernel:
 ext4_setup_system_zone() takes 524ms, 
 mount-3137    [006] ....    89.548026: ext4_setup_system_zone: (ext4_setup_system_zone+0x0/0x3f0)
 mount-3137    [006] d...    90.072895: ext4_setup_system_zone_1: (ext4_fill_super+0x2057/0x39b0 <- ext4_setup_system_zone)

 patched kernel:
 ext4_setup_system_zone() takes 552ms, 
 mount-4425    [006] ....   402.555793: ext4_setup_system_zone: (ext4_setup_system_zone+0x0/0x3d0)
 mount-4425    [006] d...   403.107307: ext4_setup_system_zone_1: (ext4_fill_super+0x2057/0x39b0 <- ext4_setup_system_zone)
> 
> 						- Ted
> 

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