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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 14:43:13 +0100 From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@...e.de> To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org> Cc: Josef Bacik <josef@...icpanda.com>, Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@...r.kernel.org>, "linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>, Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>, "bpf@...r.kernel.org" <bpf@...r.kernel.org>, "linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org" <linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org>, Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, "linux-block@...r.kernel.org" <linux-block@...r.kernel.org>, "linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org>, "linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>, "linux-nvme@...r.kernel.org" <linux-nvme@...r.kernel.org> Subject: Re: [LSFMMBPF 2021] A status update On 12/15/20 1:23 PM, Michal Hocko wrote: > On Sat 12-12-20 17:29:57, Matthew Wilcox wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:48:53AM -0500, Josef Bacik wrote: >>> We on the program committee hope everybody has been able to stay safe and >>> healthy during this challenging time, and look forward to being able to see >>> all of you in person again when it is safe. >>> >>> The current plans for LSFMMBPF 2021 are to schedule an in person conference >>> in H2 (after June) of 2021. The tentative plan is to use the same hotel >>> that we had planned to use for 2020, as we still have contracts with them. >>> However clearly that is not set in stone. The Linux Foundation has done a >>> wonderful job of working with us to formulate a plan and figure out the >>> logistics that will work the best for everybody, I really can't thank them >>> enough for their help. >> >> Thank you all for doing your best in the face of this disruption. I >> really appreciate all the work you're putting in, and I can't wait to >> see you all again in person. >> >> I hosted a Zoom call yesterday on the topic of Page Folios, and uploaded >> the video. > > Thanks for organizing this. I couldn't attent directly but I have > watched the video. I think this was a useful meeting. > >> There was interest expressed in the call on doing a follow-up >> call on the topic of GUP (get_user_pages and friends). It would probably >> also be good to have meetings on other topics. > > I hope I will have time to join this one. > >> I don't want this to be seen in any way as taking away from LSFMMBPF. >> I see Zoom calls as an interim solution to not having face-to-face >> meetings. > > Agreed! > >> I'd like to solicit feedback from this group on: >> >> - Time of day. There is no good time that suits everyone around >> the world. With developers in basically every inhabited time zone, the >> call will definitely take place in the middle of somebody's night, and >> during somebody else's normal family time. Publishing the recordings >> helps ameliorate some of this, but I feel we should shift the time >> around. Having it at the same time of day helps people fit it into >> their schedule of other meetings (and meals), but I think the benefits >> of allowing more people to participate live outweighs the costs. > > Hard question without any good answer. You can rotate preferred timezone > which should spread the suffering. > What I found useful is to have a fixed schedule for the actual talk, but keep the recording online for an extended time (say 24h). And require the presenters to be available in a break-out room for any questions for an extended time, too. That way any participant can choose which time would suit him best to watch the presentation, _and_ being reasonably sure that he can fire up questions later on. >> - Schedule. Friday's probably a bad day to have it, as it ends up >> being Saturday for some people. It can move around the week too. >> Also, probably wise to not have it over Christmas as most developers >> have that period as family time. > > Yes, Friday tends to be not great. I think mid week should work better > as the overalap > >> - Topics. I'm sure there's no shortage of things to discuss! I'm >> happy to organise meetings for people even on topics I have no direct >> interest in. > > Thanks for organizing this. I am pretty sure poeple will land on topics > either in the call or over email. > >> And most urgently, when should we have the GUP meeting? On the call, >> I suggested Friday the 8th of January, but I'm happy to set something >> up for next week if we'd like to talk more urgently. > > I am unlikely to be able to join before the end of year so if you ask > me. > > Thanks again and fingers crossed we can actually have a face to face > meeting sometimes during next year. > I'd side with Michal here; having something this year will be challenging, as quite some ppl (myself included) will be on holiday. Rather move it to start of next year; mid-February would be a good time, giving enough room to organize etc. Cheers, Hannes -- Dr. Hannes Reinecke Kernel Storage Architect hare@...e.de +49 911 74053 688 SUSE Software Solutions GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg HRB 36809 (AG Nürnberg), Geschäftsführer: Felix Imendörffer
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