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Date:   Sat, 4 Sep 2021 10:23:11 +0900
From:   Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@...il.com>
To:     Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>
Cc:     jack@...e.cz, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org, tytso@....edu,
        Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...nel.org>,
        Markus Heiser <markus.heiser@...marIT.de>,
        Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] ext4: docs: switch away from list-table

On Fri, 03 Sep 2021 09:11:26 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@...il.com> writes:
> 
> [Adding Mauro]
> 
>> On Thu,  2 Sep 2021 16:08:53 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
>>
>>> Commit 3a6541e97c03 (Add documentation about the orphan file feature) added
>>> a new document on orphan files, which is great.  But the use of
>>> "list-table" results in documents that are absolutely unreadable in their
>>> plain-text form.  Switch this file to the regular RST table format instead;
>>> the rendered (HTML) output is identical.
>>
>> In the "list tables" section of doc-guide/sphinx.rst, the first paragraph
>> starts with the sentence:
>>
>>     We recommend the use of list table formats.
>>
>> Yes, the disadvantage of list tables is mentioned later in the paragraph:
>>
>>     Compared to the ASCII-art they might not be as comfortable for readers
>>     of the text files.
>>
>> , but I still see list-table is meant as the preferred format.
> 
> Interesting...that is not at all my memory of the discussions we had at
> that time.  There was a lot of pushback against anything that makes the
> RST files less readable - still is, if certain people join the
> conversation.  Tables were one of the early flash points.  
> 
> Mauro, you added that text; do you remember things differently?  Do you
> feel we should retain that recommendation?

No, the text was first added by Markus Heiser [added to CC] in commit
0249a7644857 ("doc-rst: flat-table directive - initial implementation")
and have not updated ever since.

He might remember the circumstances, but 2016 was a long time ago,
I guess.

Or did the discussions take place after the list table support had been
added?

        Thanks, Akira (a newcomer to kerneldoc)

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> jon
> 

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