linux-ext4 - Re: [man-pages RFC PATCH v4] statx, inode: document the new STATX_INO

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Message-ID: <c1c9f537e67f2d46404a4a3983e9542de49e28bc.camel@kernel.org>
Date:   Mon, 12 Sep 2022 06:43:15 -0400
From:   Jeff Layton <jlayton@...nel.org>
To:     NeilBrown <neilb@...e.de>
Cc:     "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@...ldses.org>,
        Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
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Subject: Re: [man-pages RFC PATCH v4] statx, inode: document the new
 STATX_INO_VERSION field

On Sun, 2022-09-11 at 08:13 +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Sep 2022, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > 
> > The machine crashes and comes back up, and we get a query for i_version
> > and it comes back as X. Fine, it's an old version. Now there is a write.
> > What do we do to ensure that the new value doesn't collide with X+1? 
> 
> (I missed this bit in my earlier reply..)
> 
> How is it "Fine" to see an old version?
> The file could have changed without the version changing.
> And I thought one of the goals of the crash-count was to be able to
> provide a monotonic change id.
> 

"Fine" in the sense that we expect that to happen in this situation.
It's not fine for the clients obviously, which is why we're discussing
mitigation techniques.
-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@...nel.org>