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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 16:07:05 +1000
From: Alistair Popple <apopple@...dia.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@...nel.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@...dia.com>,
linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, nvdimm@...ts.linux.dev,
linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/18] fsdax: Manage pgmap references at entry
insertion and deletion
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com> writes:
> Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 09:29:51AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> > > > /**
>> > > > * pgmap_get_folio() - reference a folio in a live @pgmap by @pfn
>> > > > * @pgmap: live pgmap instance, caller ensures this does not race @pgmap death
>> > > > * @pfn: page frame number covered by @pgmap
>> > > > */
>> > > > struct folio *pgmap_get_folio(struct dev_pagemap *pgmap,
>> > > > unsigned long pfn)
>>
>> Maybe should be not be pfn but be 'offset from the first page of the
>> pgmap' ? Then we don't need the xa_load stuff, since it cann't be
>> wrong by definition.
>>
>> > > > {
>> > > > struct page *page;
>> > > >
>> > > > VM_WARN_ONCE(pgmap != xa_load(&pgmap_array, PHYS_PFN(phys)));
>> > > >
>> > > > if (WARN_ONCE(percpu_ref_is_dying(&pgmap->ref)))
>> > > > return NULL;
>> > >
>> > > This shouldn't be a WARN?
>> >
>> > It's a bug if someone calls this after killing the pgmap. I.e. the
>> > expectation is that the caller is synchronzing this. The only reason
>> > this isn't a VM_WARN_ONCE is because the sanity check is cheap, but I do
>> > not expect it to fire on anything but a development kernel.
>>
>> OK, that makes sense
>>
>> But shouldn't this get the pgmap refcount here? The reason we started
>> talking about this was to make all the pgmap logic self contained so
>> that the pgmap doesn't pass its own destroy until all the all the
>> page_free()'s have been done.
That sounds good to me at least. I just noticed we introduced this exact
bug for device private/coherent pages when making their refcounts zero
based. Nothing currently takes pgmap->ref when a private/coherent page
is mapped. Therefore memunmap_pages() will complete and pgmap destroyed
while pgmap pages are still mapped.
So I think we need to call put_dev_pagemap() as part of
free_zone_device_page().
- Alistair
>> > > > This does not create compound folios, that needs to be coordinated with
>> > > > the caller and likely needs an explicit
>> > >
>> > > Does it? What situations do you think the caller needs to coordinate
>> > > the folio size? Caller should call the function for each logical unit
>> > > of storage it wants to allocate from the pgmap..
>> >
>> > The problem for fsdax is that it needs to gather all the PTEs, hold a
>> > lock to synchronize against events that would shatter a huge page, and
>> > then build up the compound folio metadata before inserting the PMD.
>>
>> Er, at this point we are just talking about acquiring virgin pages
>> nobody else is using, not inserting things. There is no possibility of
>> conurrent shattering because, by definition, nothing else can
>> reference these struct pages at this instant.
>>
>> Also, the caller must already be serializating pgmap_get_folio()
>> against concurrent calls on the same pfn (since it is an error to call
>> pgmap_get_folio() on an non-free pfn)
>>
>> So, I would expect the caller must already have all the necessary
>> locking to accept maximally sized folios.
>>
>> eg if it has some reason to punch a hole in the contiguous range
>> (shatter the folio) it must *already* serialize against
>> pgmap_get_folio(), since something like punching a hole must know with
>> certainty if any struct pages are refcount != 0 or not, and must not
>> race with something trying to set their refcount to 1.
>
> Perhaps, I'll take a look. The scenario I am more concerned about is
> processA sets up a VMA of PAGE_SIZE and races processB to fault in the
> same filesystem block with a VMA of PMD_SIZE. Right now processA gets a
> PTE mapping and processB gets a PMD mapping, but the refcounting is all
> handled in small pages. I need to investigate more what is needed for
> fsdax to support folio_size() > mapping entry size.
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