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Date:   Wed, 11 Oct 2023 18:29:04 +0200
From:   Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
To:     Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>
Cc:     Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, Max Kellermann <max.kellermann@...os.com>,
        Xiubo Li <xiubli@...hat.com>,
        Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@...il.com>,
        Jeff Layton <jlayton@...nel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.com>,
        Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@...nel.org>, ceph-devel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org,
        jfs-discussion@...ts.sourceforge.net,
        Yang Xu <xuyang2018.jy@...itsu.com>,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] fs/{posix_acl,ext2,jfs,ceph}: apply umask if ACL
 support is disabled

On Wed 11-10-23 17:27:37, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 03:59:22PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Wed 11-10-23 14:27:49, Max Kellermann wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 2:18 PM Max Kellermann <max.kellermann@...os.com> wrote:
> > > > But without the other filesystems. I'll resend it with just the
> > > > posix_acl.h hunk.
> > > 
> > > Thinking again, I don't think this is the proper solution. This may
> > > server as a workaround so those broken filesystems don't suffer from
> > > this bug, but it's not proper.
> > > 
> > > posix_acl_create() is only supposed to appy the umask if the inode
> > > supports ACLs; if not, the VFS is supposed to do it. But if the
> > > filesystem pretends to have ACL support but the kernel does not, it's
> > > really a filesystem bug. Hacking the umask code into
> > > posix_acl_create() for that inconsistent case doesn't sound right.
> > > 
> > > A better workaround would be this patch:
> > > https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-nfs/patch/151603744662.29035.4910161264124875658.stgit@rabbit.intern.cm-ag/
> > > I submitted it more than 5 years ago, it got one positive review, but
> > > was never merged.
> > > 
> > > This patch enables the VFS's umask code even if the filesystem
> > > prerents to support ACLs. This still doesn't fix the filesystem bug,
> > > but makes VFS's behavior consistent.
> > 
> > OK, that solution works for me as well. I agree it seems a tad bit cleaner.
> > Christian, which one would you prefer?
> 
> So it always bugged me that POSIX ACLs push umask stripping down into
> the individual filesystems but it's hard to get rid of this. And we
> tried to improve the situation during the POSIX ACL rework by
> introducing vfs_prepare_umask().
> 
> Aside from that, the problem had been that filesystems like nfs v4
> intentionally raised SB_POSIXACL to prevent umask stripping in the VFS.
> IOW, for them SB_POSIXACL was equivalent to "don't apply any umask".

Ah, what a hack...

> And afaict nfs v4 has it's own thing going on how and where umasks are
> applied. However, since we now have the following commit in vfs.misc:
> 
> commit f61b9bb3f8386a5e59b49bf1310f5b34f47bcef9
> Author:     Jeff Layton <jlayton@...nel.org>
> AuthorDate: Mon Sep 11 20:25:50 2023 -0400
> Commit:     Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>
> CommitDate: Thu Sep 21 15:37:47 2023 +0200
> 
>     fs: add a new SB_I_NOUMASK flag
> 
>     SB_POSIXACL must be set when a filesystem supports POSIX ACLs, but NFSv4
>     also sets this flag to prevent the VFS from applying the umask on
>     newly-created files. NFSv4 doesn't support POSIX ACLs however, which
>     causes confusion when other subsystems try to test for them.
> 
>     Add a new SB_I_NOUMASK flag that allows filesystems to opt-in to umask
>     stripping without advertising support for POSIX ACLs. Set the new flag
>     on NFSv4 instead of SB_POSIXACL.
> 
>     Also, move mode_strip_umask to namei.h and convert init_mknod and
>     init_mkdir to use it.
> 
>     Signed-off-by: Jeff Layton <jlayton@...nel.org>
>     Message-Id: <20230911-acl-fix-v3-1-b25315333f6c@...nel.org>
>     Signed-off-by: Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>
> 
> I think it's possible to pick up the first patch linked above:
>    
> fix umask on NFS with CONFIG_FS_POSIX_ACL=n doesn't lead to any
> 
> and see whether we see any regressions from this.
> 
> The second patch I can't easily judge that should go through nfs if at
> all.
> 
> So proposal/question: should we take the first patch into vfs.misc?

Sounds good to me. I have checked whether some other filesystem does not
try to play similar games as NFS and it appears not although overlayfs does
seem to play some games with umasks.

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@...e.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

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