linux-ext4 - Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v6 0/9] Support negative dentries on case-insensitive ext4 and f2fs

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Message-ID: <20231123012228.GL38156@ZenIV>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 01:22:28 +0000
From: Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>,
	Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@...e.de>, tytso@....edu,
	linux-f2fs-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net, ebiggers@...nel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, jaegeuk@...nel.org,
	linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v6 0/9] Support negative dentries on
 case-insensitive ext4 and f2fs

On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 01:12:08AM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 09:19:01PM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 02:27:34AM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> > 
> > > I will review that series; my impression from the previous iterations
> > > had been fairly unpleasant, TBH, but I hadn't rechecked since April
> > > or so.
> > 
> > The serious gap, AFAICS, is the interplay with open-by-fhandle.
> > It's not unfixable, but we need to figure out what to do when
> > lookup runs into a disconnected directory alias.  d_splice_alias()
> > will move it in place, all right, but any state ->lookup() has
> > hung off the dentry that had been passed to it will be lost.
> > 
> > And I seriously suspect that we want to combine that state
> > propagation with d_splice_alias() (or its variant to be used in
> > such cases), rather than fixing the things up afterwards.
> > 
> > In particular, propagating ->d_op is really not trivial at that
> > point; it is safe to do to ->lookup() argument prior to d_splice_alias()
> > (even though that's too subtle and brittle, IMO), but after
> > d_splice_alias() has succeeded, the damn thing is live and can
> > be hit by hash lookups, revalidate, etc.
> > 
> > The only things that can't happen to it are ->d_delete(), ->d_prune(),
> > ->d_iput() and ->d_init().  Everything else is fair game.
> > 
> > And then there's an interesting question about the interplay with
> > reparenting.  It's OK to return an error rather than reparent,
> > but we need some way to tell if we need to do so.
> 
> Hmm... int (*d_transfer)(struct dentry *alias, struct dentry *new)?
> Called if d_splice_alias() picks that sucker, under rename_lock,
> before the call of __d_move().  Can check IS_ROOT(alias) (due to
> rename_lock), so can tell attaching from reparenting, returning
> an error - failed d_splice_alias().
> 
> Perhaps would be even better inside __d_move(), once all ->d_lock
> are taken...  Turn the current bool exchange in there into honest
> enum (exchange/move/splice) and call ->d_transfer() on splice.
> In case of failure it's still not too late to back out - __d_move()
> would return an int, ignored in d_move() and d_exchange() and
> treated as "fail in unlikely case it's non-zero" in d_splice_alias()
> and __d_unalias()...
> 
> Comments?  Note that e.g.
>         res = d_splice_alias(inode, dentry);
>         if (!IS_ERR(fid)) {
>                 if (!res)
>                         v9fs_fid_add(dentry, &fid);
>                 else if (!IS_ERR(res))
>                         v9fs_fid_add(res, &fid);
>                 else
>                         p9_fid_put(fid);
>         }
> 
> in 9p ->lookup() would turn into
> 
> 	v9fs_fid_add(dentry, &fid);
>         return d_splice_alias(inode, dentry);
> 
> with ->d_transfer(alias, new) being simply
> 
> 	struct hlist_node *p = new->d_fsdata;
> 	hlist_del_init(p);
> 	__add_fid(alias, hlist_entry(p, struct p9_fid, dlist));
> 	return 0;
> 
> assuming the call from __d_move()...

Incidentally, 9p and this one would not be the only places that could use it -
affs - alias->d_fsdata = new->d_fsdata
afs - ditto
ocfs2 - smells like another possible benefitiary (attaching locks, etc.
would be saner if done before d_splice_alias(), with ->d_transfer()
moving the lock to the alias)...