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Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0i3zg1ee9p7vc0xEN4cEyCoO-d9OOyV_m65=f251tnxXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:32:18 +0100
From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>, Ming Lei <ming.lei@...hat.com>, 
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@...hat.com>, Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>, 
	"x86@...nel.org" <x86@...nel.org>, hpa <hpa@...or.com>, dyoung <dyoung@...hat.com>, 
	kexec <kexec@...ts.infradead.org>, linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>, 
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>, Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@...hat.com>, eperezma <eperezma@...hat.com>, 
	Paolo Bonzini <bonzini@...hat.com>, Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>, 
	John Ogness <jogness@...utronix.de>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, 
	Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: Lockdep warnings on kexec (virtio_blk, hrtimers)

On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:05 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Dec 13 2024 at 14:07, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Fri, 2024-12-13 at 14:23 +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> >> That's only true for the case where the new kernel takes over.
> >>
> >> In the case KEXEC_JUMP=n and kexec_image->preserve_context == true, then
> >> it is supposed to align with suspend/resume and if you look at the code
> >> then it actually mimics suspend/resume in the most dilettanteish way.
> >
> > Did you mean KEXEC_JUMP=y there?
>
> Yes, of course.
>
> > I spent a while the other week trying to understand the case where
> > CONFIG_KEXEC_JUMP=n and kexec_image->preserve_context=true, and came to
> > the conclusion that it was a mirage. Userspace can't *actually* set the
> > KEXEC_PRESERVE_CONTEXT bit when setting up the image, if KEXEC_JUMP=n.
> >
> > The whole of the code path for that case is dead code. It's confusing
> > because as discussed elsewhere, we don't just #ifdef out the whole of
> > that dead code path, but only the bits which don't actually *compile*
> > (like references to restore_processor_state() etc.).
>
> Yes, I had to stare at it quite a while. :)
>
> >> It's a patently bad idea to clobber the kernel with kexec jump "fixes"
> >> instead of using the well tested and established suspend/resume
> >> machinery.
> >>
> >> All it takes is to:
> >>
> >>     1) disable the wakeup logic
> >>
> >>     2) provide a mechanism to invoke machine_kexec() instead of the
> >>        actual suspend mechanism.
> >>
> >> No?
> >
> > Agreed. The hacky proof of concept I posted earlier invoking
> > machine_kexec() instead of suspend_ops->enter() works fine. I'll look
> > at cleaning it up and making it not invoke all the ACPI hooks for
> > *actual* suspend to RAM, etc.
>
> Something like the below? It survived an hour of loop testing.

I think that this KEXEC_JUMP thing can be dropped entirely and forgotten.

I'm not aware of anyone actually using it.

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