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Message-ID: <c12d955b-d1d2-4e54-b972-8455d20ae637@huawei.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2025 15:52:58 +0800
From: Baokun Li <libaokun1@...wei.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
CC: <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>, <tytso@....edu>, <adilger.kernel@...ger.ca>,
	<ojaswin@...ux.ibm.com>, <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	<yi.zhang@...wei.com>, <yangerkun@...wei.com>, Baokun Li
	<libaokun1@...wei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/16] ext4: remove unnecessary s_mb_last_start

On 2025/6/30 15:31, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Mon 30-06-25 11:32:16, Baokun Li wrote:
>> On 2025/6/28 2:15, Jan Kara wrote:
>>> On Mon 23-06-25 15:32:50, Baokun Li wrote:
>>>> ac->ac_g_ex.fe_start is only used in ext4_mb_find_by_goal(), but STREAM
>>>> ALLOC is activated after ext4_mb_find_by_goal() fails, so there's no need
>>>> to update ac->ac_g_ex.fe_start, remove the unnecessary s_mb_last_start.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Baokun Li <libaokun1@...wei.com>
>>> I'd just note that ac->ac_g_ex.fe_start is also used in
>>> ext4_mb_collect_stats() so this change may impact the statistics gathered
>>> there. OTOH it is questionable whether we even want to account streaming
>>> allocation as a goal hit... Anyway, I'm fine with this, I'd just mention it
>>> in the changelog.
>> Yes, I missed ext4_mb_collect_stats(). However, instead of explaining
>> it in the changelog, I think it would be better to move the current
>> s_bal_goals update to inside or after ext4_mb_find_by_goal().
>>
>> Then, we could add another variable, such as s_bal_stream_goals, to
>> represent the hit count for global goals. This kind of statistic would
>> help us fine-tune the logic for optimizing inode goals and global goals.
>>
>> What are your thoughts on this?
> Sure that sounds good to me.

Ok, I will add a patch to implement that logic in the next version.

>
>>>> @@ -2849,7 +2848,6 @@ ext4_mb_regular_allocator(struct ext4_allocation_context *ac)
>>>>    		/* TBD: may be hot point */
>>>>    		spin_lock(&sbi->s_md_lock);
>>>>    		ac->ac_g_ex.fe_group = sbi->s_mb_last_group;
>>>> -		ac->ac_g_ex.fe_start = sbi->s_mb_last_start;
>>> Maybe reset ac->ac_g_ex.fe_start to 0 instead of leaving it at some random
>>> value? Just for the sake of defensive programming...
>>>
>> ac->ac_g_ex.fe_start holds the inode goal's start position, not a random
>> value. It's unused after ext4_mb_find_by_goal() (if s_bal_stream_goals is
>> added). Thus, I see no need for further modification. We can always re-add
>> it if future requirements change.
> Yeah, I was imprecise. It is not a random value. But it is not an offset in
> the group we are now setting. Therefore I'd still prefer to reset fe_start
> to 0 (or some invalid value like -1 to catch unexpected use).
>
> 								Honza

When ext4_mb_regular_allocator() fails, it might retry and get called
again. In this scenario, we can't reliably determine if ac_g_ex has
already been modified. Therefore, it might be more appropriate to set
ac_g_ex.fe_start to -1 after ext4_mb_find_by_goal() fails. We can then
skip ext4_mb_find_by_goal() when ac_g_ex.fe_start < 0.


Cheers,
Baokun


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