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Message-ID: <20250701060255.GG9987@frogsfrogsfrogs> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2025 23:02:55 -0700 From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@...nel.org> To: Bernd Schubert <bernd@...ernd.com> Cc: Allison Karlitskaya <lis@...hat.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@...il.com>, linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>, John@...ves.net, miklos@...redi.hu, joannelkoong@...il.com, Josef Bacik <josef@...icpanda.com>, linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org> Subject: Re: [RFC[RAP]] fuse: use fs-iomap for better performance so we can containerize ext4 On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 01:50:20PM +0200, Bernd Schubert wrote: > > > On 6/20/25 10:58, Allison Karlitskaya wrote: > > hi Ted, > > > > Sorry I didn't see this earlier. I've been travelling. > > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 at 21:25, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu> wrote: > > > This may break the github actions for composefs-rs[1], but I'm going > > > to assume that they can figure out a way to transition to Fuse3 > > > (hopefully by just using a newer version of Ubuntu, but I suppose it's > > > possible that Rust bindings only exist for Fuse2, and not Fuse3). But > > > in any case, I don't think it makes sense to hold back fuse2fs > > > development just for the sake of Ubuntu Focal (LTS 20.04). And if > > > necessary, composefs-rs can just stay back on e2fsprogs 1.47.N until > > > they can get off of Fuse2 and/or Ubuntu 20.04. Allison, does that > > > sound fair to you? > > > > To be honest, with a composefs-rs hat on, I don't care at all about > > fuse support for ext2/3/4 (although I think it's cool that it exists). > > We also use fuse in composefs-rs for unrelated reasons, but even there > > we use the fuser rust crate which has a "pure rust" direct syscall > > layer that no longer depends on libfuse. Our use of e2fsprogs is > > strictly related to building testing images in CI, and for that we > > only use mkfs.ext4. There's also no specific reason that we're using > > old Ubuntu. I probably just copy-pasted it from another project > > without paying too much attention. > > > From libfuse point of view I'm too happy about that split into different "too happy"? I would have thought you would /not/ be too happy about splits... <confused> > libraries. Libfuse already right now misses several features because > they were added to virtiofs, but not to libfuse. I need to find the time > for it, but I guess it makes sense to add rust support to libfuse (and > some parts can be entirely rewritten into rust). Yeah, I noticed a few missing pieces like statx and syncfs support, which I added to my own libfuse branch (+ fuse2fs). Eventually I'd like to get the kernel umount code to flush and wait for all pending fuse commands, issue a FUSE_SYNCFS and wait for that, and then issue a FUSE_DESTROY to tell the fuse server to tear itself down and release the block devices(s) its holding. --D > > > Thanks, > Bernd >
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