linux-hardening - Re: [PATCH RFC] gcc-plugins: Handle GCC version mismatch for OOT modules

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Message-ID: <CAK7LNARDEwyjDj3u=8Y176TehU9FD548LFTrqi3AmBR6jrnA_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Sat, 6 Mar 2021 00:31:36 +0900
From:   Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@...nel.org>
To:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:     Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Michal Marek <michal.lkml@...kovi.net>,
        linux-hardening@...r.kernel.org,
        Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@...r.kernel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Justin Forbes <jforbes@...hat.com>,
        Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@...hat.com>,
        Frank Eigler <fche@...hat.com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] gcc-plugins: Handle GCC version mismatch for OOT modules

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 4:13 AM Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 7:36 AM Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@...nel.org> wrote:
> >
> > All the kernel-space objects are rebuilt
> > when the compiler is upgraded.
>
> I very much NAK'ed that one. Why did that go in?


When the compiler is upgraded, all objects
should be rebuilt by the new compiler,
- this keeps Kbuild deterministic,
irrespective of whether it is a fresh build,
or incremental build.


If we do not force the full rebuild,
the banner at boot time is no point.

[    0.000000] Linux version 5.8.0-44-generic (buildd@...01-amd64-039)
(gcc (Ubuntu 10.2.0-13ubuntu1) 10.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for
Ubuntu) 2.35.1) #50-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 9 06:29:41 UTC 2021 (Ubuntu
5.8.0-44.50-generic 5.8.18)


It claims it was built by
gcc (Ubuntu 10.2.0-13ubuntu1) 10.2.0
but we would never know if it is true
for whole objects.
Some of them might have been compiled by
an older compiler.




> Or maybe I NAK'ed another version of it (I think the one I NAK'ed was
> from Josh), and didn't realize that there were multiple ones.
>
> > Linus complaint about GCC plugins not being rebuilt.
>
> Yes, and that was a separate complaint and not at all tied to the other objects.
>
> Gcc plugins aren't kernel object files at all. They are very much like
> dynamically loadable libraries to gcc itself.
>
>                Linus



-- 
Best Regards
Masahiro Yamada