linux-hardening - Re: [PATCH] Introduce the pkill_on

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Date:   Sat, 2 Oct 2021 09:52:49 -0700
From:   Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:     Alexander Popov <alex.popov@...ux.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Introduce the pkill_on_warn boot parameter

On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 4:41 AM Alexander Popov <alex.popov@...ux.com> wrote:
>
> And what do you think about the proposed pkill_on_warn?

Honestly, I don't see the point.

If you can reliably trigger the WARN_ON some way, you can probably
cause more problems by fooling some other process to trigger it.

And if it's unintentional, then what does the signal help?

So rather than a "rationale" that makes little sense, I'd like to hear
of an actual _use_ case. That's different. That's somebody actually
_using_ that pkill to good effect for some particular load.

That said, I don't much care in the end. But it sounds like a
pointless option to just introduce yet another behavior to something
that should never happen anyway, and where the actual
honest-to-goodness reason for WARN_ON() existing is already being
fulfilled (ie syzbot has been very effective at flushing things like
that out).

                   Linus