linux-hardening - Re: [PATCH v9 03/15] kallsyms: Hide layout

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Date:   Mon, 3 Jan 2022 17:59:27 +0100
From:   Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
To:     Alexander Lobakin <alexandr.lobakin@...el.com>
Cc:     linux-hardening@...r.kernel.org, x86@...nel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 03/15] kallsyms: Hide layout

On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 04:40:23PM +0100, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
> "kallsyms: randomize /proc/kallsyms output order"?

Better.

> It displays zeros for non-roots, but the symbols are still sorted by
> their addresses. As a result, if you leak one address, you could
> determine some others.

Because if an attacker has the corresponding vmlinux, he has the offsets
too so, game over?

> This is especially critical with FG-KASLR as its text layout is
> random each time and sorted /proc/kallsyms would make the entire
> feature useless.

Do you notice how exactly this needs to absolutely be in the commit
message? Instead of that "this patch" bla which is more or less obvious.

IOW, always talk about *why* you're doing a change.

> I either have some problems with checkpatch + codespell, or they
> missed all that typos you're noticing. Thanks, and apologies =\

No worries, and thank python's enchant module which I use to spellcheck
stuff.

So lemme look at the actual patch then :)

Thx.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

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