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Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 11:39:17 -0700 From: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> To: Paul Moore <paul@...l-moore.com> Cc: "Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@...nel.org>, Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@...unet.com>, Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Stephen Smalley <stephen.smalley.work@...il.com>, Eric Paris <eparis@...isplace.org>, Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com>, Xiu Jianfeng <xiujianfeng@...wei.com>, Christian Göttsche <cgzones@...glemail.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org, selinux@...r.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>, alsa-devel@...a-project.org, Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>, Andrew Gabbasov <andrew_gabbasov@...tor.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, Andy Gross <agross@...nel.org>, Andy Lavr <andy.lavr@...il.com>, Arend van Spriel <aspriel@...il.com>, Baowen Zheng <baowen.zheng@...igine.com>, Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@...aro.org>, Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com>, Bradley Grove <linuxdrivers@...otech.com>, brcm80211-dev-list.pdl@...adcom.com, Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>, Christian Lamparter <chunkeey@...glemail.com>, Chris Zankel <chris@...kel.net>, Cong Wang <cong.wang@...edance.com>, Daniel Axtens <dja@...ens.net>, Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@...ll.ch>, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>, David Gow <davidgow@...gle.com>, David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>, Dennis Dalessandro <dennis.dalessandro@...nelisnetworks.com>, devicetree@...r.kernel.org, Dexuan Cui <decui@...rosoft.com>, Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@...il.com>, Eli Cohen <elic@...dia.com>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, Eugeniu Rosca <erosca@...adit-jv.com>, Felipe Balbi <balbi@...nel.org>, Francis Laniel <laniel_francis@...vacyrequired.com>, Frank Rowand <frowand.list@...il.com>, Franky Lin <franky.lin@...adcom.com>, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>, Gregory Greenman <gregory.greenman@...el.com>, Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>, Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@...rosoft.com>, Hante Meuleman <hante.meuleman@...adcom.com>, Hulk Robot <hulkci@...wei.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, "James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@...ux.ibm.com>, James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>, Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@...nel.org>, Jaroslav Kysela <perex@...ex.cz>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>, Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>, Johan Hedberg <johan.hedberg@...il.com>, Johannes Berg <johannes.berg@...el.com>, Johannes Berg <johannes@...solutions.net>, John Keeping <john@...anate.com>, Juergen Gross <jgross@...e.com>, Kalle Valo <kvalo@...nel.org>, Keith Packard <keithp@...thp.com>, keyrings@...r.kernel.org, kunit-dev@...glegroups.com, Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@...zon.co.jp>, "K. Y. Srinivasan" <kys@...rosoft.com>, Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@...afoo.de>, Lee Jones <lee.jones@...aro.org>, Leon Romanovsky <leon@...nel.org>, Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@...il.com>, linux1394-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net, linux-afs@...ts.infradead.org, linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org, linux-bluetooth@...r.kernel.org, linux-hardening@...r.kernel.org, linux-hyperv@...r.kernel.org, linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org, linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org, linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org, linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org, linux-usb@...r.kernel.org, linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org, linux-xtensa@...ux-xtensa.org, llvm@...ts.linux.dev, Loic Poulain <loic.poulain@...aro.org>, Louis Peens <louis.peens@...igine.com>, Luca Coelho <luciano.coelho@...el.com>, Luiz Augusto von Dentz <luiz.dentz@...il.com>, Marc Dionne <marc.dionne@...istor.com>, Marcel Holtmann <marcel@...tmann.org>, Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>, "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@...cle.com>, Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@...il.com>, Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.ibm.com>, Muchun Song <songmuchun@...edance.com>, Nathan Chancellor <nathan@...nel.org>, Nuno Sá <nuno.sa@...log.com>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>, Rich Felker <dalias@...ifal.cx>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>, Russell King <linux@...linux.org.uk>, "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>, SHA-cyfmac-dev-list@...ineon.com, Simon Horman <simon.horman@...igine.com>, Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@...nel.org>, Stefan Richter <stefanr@...6.in-berlin.de>, Stephen Hemminger <sthemmin@...rosoft.com>, Tadeusz Struk <tadeusz.struk@...aro.org>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.com>, Tom Rix <trix@...hat.com>, Udipto Goswami <quic_ugoswami@...cinc.com>, Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@....com>, wcn36xx@...ts.infradead.org, Wei Liu <wei.liu@...nel.org>, xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org, Yang Yingliang <yangyingliang@...wei.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH 28/32] selinux: Use mem_to_flex_dup() with xfrm and sidtab On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 11:14:42PM -0400, Paul Moore wrote: > On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 7:34 PM Gustavo A. R. Silva > <gustavoars@...nel.org> wrote: > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 06:57:28PM -0400, Paul Moore wrote: > > > On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 9:57 PM Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> wrote: > > > > [..] > > > > > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/xfrm.h > > > > @@ -31,9 +31,9 @@ struct xfrm_id { > > > > struct xfrm_sec_ctx { > > > > __u8 ctx_doi; > > > > __u8 ctx_alg; > > > > - __u16 ctx_len; > > > > + __DECLARE_FLEX_ARRAY_ELEMENTS_COUNT(__u16, ctx_len); > > > > __u32 ctx_sid; > > > > - char ctx_str[0]; > > > > + __DECLARE_FLEX_ARRAY_ELEMENTS(char, ctx_str); > > > > }; > > > > > > While I like the idea of this in principle, I'd like to hear about the > > > testing you've done on these patches. A previous flex array > > > conversion in the audit uapi headers ended up causing a problem with > > > > I'm curious about which commit caused those problems...? > > Commit ed98ea2128b6 ("audit: replace zero-length array with > flexible-array member"), however, as I said earlier, the problem was > actually with SWIG, it just happened to be triggered by the kernel > commit. There was a brief fedora-devel mail thread about the problem, > see the link below: > > * https://www.spinics.net/lists/fedora-devel/msg297991.html Wow, that's pretty weird -- it looks like SWIG was scraping the headers to build its conversions? I assume SWIG has been fixed now? > To reiterate, I'm supportive of changes like this, but I would like to > hear how it was tested to ensure there are no unexpected problems with > userspace. If there are userspace problems it doesn't mean we can't > make changes like this, it just means we need to ensure that the > userspace issues are resolved first. Well, as this is the first and only report of any problems with [0] -> [] conversions (in UAPI or anywhere) that I remember seeing, and they've been underway since at least v5.9, I hadn't been doing any new testing. So, for this case, I guess I should ask what tests you think would be meaningful here? Anything using #include should be fine: https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=linux%2Fxfrm.h&literal=1&perpkg=1 Which leaves just this, which may be doing something weird: libabigail_2.0-1/tests/data/test-diff-filter/test-PR27569-v0.abi </data-member> <data-member access="public" layout-offset-in-bits="128"> <var-decl name="seq_hi" type-id="3f1a6b60" visibility="default" filepath="include/uapi/linux/xfrm.h" line="97" column="1"/> </data-member> <data-member access="public" layout-offset-in-bits="160"> But I see that SWIG doesn't show up in a search for linux/audit.h: https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=linux%2Faudit.h&literal=1&perpkg=1 So this may not be a sufficient analysis... -- Kees Cook
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