linux-hardening - Re: [PATCH] docs: submitting-patches: Discuss interleaved replies

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite for Android: free password hash cracker in your pocket

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <6c1f853b-b051-c390-267e-1ea1741e8537@leemhuis.info>
Date:   Thu, 11 May 2023 11:21:36 +0200
From:   Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@...mhuis.info>
To:     Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>
Cc:     Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Rong Tao <rtoax@...mail.com>,
        Lukas Bulwahn <lukas.bulwahn@...il.com>,
        Zhangfei Gao <zhangfei.gao@...mail.com>,
        linux-doc@...r.kernel.org, linux-hardening@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: submitting-patches: Discuss interleaved replies

On 10.05.23 20:34, Kees Cook wrote:
> Top-posting has been strongly discouraged in Linux development, but this
> was actually not written anywhere in the common documentation about
> sending patches and replying to reviews. Add a section about trimming
> and interleaved replies.

Thx for doing this.

> [...]
> ---
>  Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst | 23 ++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 23 insertions(+)

For some reason we have duplicate code^w documentation for this, hence
I'd say the same or a similar text should also be added to one of the
filed in Documentation/process/[0-9].*rst ; from a quick
Documentation/process/6.Followthrough.rst might be the best one.

Maybe in fact the text should move there and submitting-patches.rst
should have a much shorter version, as it's meant to be the terser of
the two docs about this.

> diff --git a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst
> index eac7167dce83..3e838da8822f 100644
> --- a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst
> @@ -326,6 +326,29 @@ explaining difference aganst previous submission (see
>  See Documentation/process/email-clients.rst for recommendations on email
>  clients and mailing list etiquette.
>  
> +Use trimmed interleaved replies in email discussions
> +----------------------------------------------------
> +Top-posting is strongly discouraged in Linux kernel development
> +discusions. Interleaved (or "inline") replies make conversations much

s/discusions/discussions/

> +easier to follow. For more details see:
> +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
> +
> +As is frequently quoted on the mailing list:
> +
> +  A: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post
> +  Q: Were do I find info about this thing called top-posting?
> +  A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> +  Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> +  A: Top-posting.
> +  Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
> +
> +Similarly, please trim all unneeded quotations that aren't relevant
> +to your reply. This makes replies easier to find, and saves time and

Nitpicking, feel free to ignore: maybe "s/replies/responses/" or
something like that, as at least my stupid brain accidentally thought of
the email reply (as whole) when reading this for the first time.

> +space. For more details see: http://daringfireball.net/2007/07/on_top
> [...]

Ciao, Thorsten