linux-hardening - Re: [RFC PATCH v2 18/19] heki: x86: Protect guest kernel memory using the KVM hypervisor

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Message-ID: <20231113085403.GC16138@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 09:54:03 +0100
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To: Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ikod.net>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
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	John Andersen <john.s.andersen@...el.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 18/19] heki: x86: Protect guest kernel memory
 using the KVM hypervisor

On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 09:23:25PM -0500, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
> From: Madhavan T. Venkataraman <madvenka@...ux.microsoft.com>
> 
> Implement a hypervisor function, kvm_protect_memory() that calls the
> KVM_HC_PROTECT_MEMORY hypercall to request the KVM hypervisor to
> set specified permissions on a list of guest pages.
> 
> Using the protect_memory() function, set proper EPT permissions for all
> guest pages.
> 
> Use the MEM_ATTR_IMMUTABLE property to protect the kernel static
> sections and the boot-time read-only sections. This enables to make sure
> a compromised guest will not be able to change its main physical memory
> page permissions. However, this also disable any feature that may change
> the kernel's text section (e.g., ftrace, Kprobes), but they can still be
> used on kernel modules.
> 
> Module loading/unloading, and eBPF JIT is allowed without restrictions
> for now, but we'll need a way to authenticate these code changes to
> really improve the guests' security. We plan to use module signatures,
> but there is no solution yet to authenticate eBPF programs.
> 
> Being able to use ftrace and Kprobes in a secure way is a challenge not
> solved yet. We're looking for ideas to make this work.
> 
> Likewise, the JUMP_LABEL feature cannot work because the kernel's text
> section is read-only.

What is the actual problem? As is the kernel text map is already RO and
never changed.