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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 08:43:01 -0800
From: Nick Desaulniers <>
To: Andy Shevchenko <>
Cc:, Kees Cook <>,,, 
	Nick DeSaulniers <>, Andrew Morton <>,, 
	Greg KH <>, Alexander Viro <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] lib/string: shrink lib/string.i via IWYU

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 7:55 AM Andy Shevchenko <> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 06:44:48PM +0000, wrote:
> > This diff uses an open source tool include-what-you-use (IWYU) to modify
> > the include list changing indirect includes to direct includes.
> > IWYU is implemented using the IWYUScripts github repository which is a tool that is
> > currently undergoing development. These changes seek to improve build times.
> >
> > This change to lib/string.c resulted in a preprocessed size of
> > lib/string.i from 26371 lines to 5263 lines (-80%) for the x86
> > defconfig.
> ...
> >  #define __NO_FORTIFY
> >  #include <linux/types.h>
> > -#include <linux/string.h>
> > -#include <linux/ctype.h>
> > -#include <linux/kernel.h>
> > -#include <linux/export.h>
> > +#include <linux/bits.h>
> >  #include <linux/bug.h>
> >  #include <linux/errno.h>
> > -#include <linux/slab.h>
> > -
> Why this blank is removed?

The automation isn't aware of any convention around having blank lines
separate linux/* vs asm/*.  Is that a convention we have throughout
the kernel, or just this file?

If we rerun the automation on this file after Tanzir's patch here, we
get no further changes.  If we manually touch up the results, then
rerun the automation, it will undo the manual touch ups.

I don't mind saying "you might have to manually touch up the results
of the automation to comply with <link to documentation on stated
kernel policy/style guide>" but on the other hand I also think it
would be nice if other folks run the automation so that they don't get
additional changes.  I'd like to avoid drive-by patches that just undo
any manual touch ups.

> > +#include <linux/linkage.h>
> > +#include <linux/stddef.h>
> > +#include <linux/string.h>
> > +#include <linux/ctype.h>
> >  #include <asm/unaligned.h>
> > -#include <asm/byteorder.h>
> > +#include <asm/rwonce.h>
> >  #include <asm/word-at-a-time.h>
> >  #include <asm/page.h>
> Sort this group alphabetically as well.

By default the automation sorts the result.  I asked Tanzir to
explicitly disable that; otherwise the resulting diffstat is hard to
tell precisely what was removed/added vs simply moved.

If he kept the default behavior, I highly suspect the feedback would
have been along the lines of "please don't sort the result; I can't
tell what moved vs was added or removed."

Perhaps we should add another commit on the series that manually sorts
the results _after_ the automation?

Do we have anything in Documentation/process/coding-style.rst about
sorting headers? There's a blip about clang-format sorting them, but
we don't have strong guidance along the lines of "you ought to sort
your includes (when you don't have special cases like x-macros)."

> > +#include <vdso/limits.h>
> Just use linux/limits.h.
> VDSO is a very special UAPI case. So it's even stricter rule
> than for asm/ for using anything from there.

We can add a special rule for this, Tanzir, please add. And remember
to re-measure the results of that change for this patch's commit

> Expected result:
> #include <linux/bits.h>
> #include <linux/bug.h>
> #include <linux/ctype.h>
> #include <linux/errno.h>
> #include <linux/limits.h>
> #include <linux/linkage.h>
> #include <linux/stddef.h>
> #include <linux/string.h>
> #include <linux/types.h>
> #include <asm/page.h>
> #include <asm/rwonce.h>
> #include <asm/unaligned.h>
> #include <asm/word-at-a-time.h>
> --
> With Best Regards,
> Andy Shevchenko

~Nick Desaulniers

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