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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:48:09 -0800
From: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@...omium.org>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/1] seal system mappings

Hi Lorenzo

On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 12:36 PM Lorenzo Stoakes
<lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com> wrote:
>
> You left kernel test bots and review unanswered on v2, which makes it
> difficult to know whether you actually addressed everything.
>
Thanks for reminding me, I got distracted previously.
I responded to the test bots.

> Please respond to all outstanding comments in the v2 thread so we know,
> thanks, even if it is to say 'this is no longer an issue as v3 addresses'.
>
All comments of v2 were addressed in V3.

> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 07:16:01PM +0000, jeffxu@...omium.org wrote:
> > From: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@...omium.org>
> >
> > Seal vdso, vvar, sigpage, uprobes and vsyscall.
> >
> > Those mappings are readonly or executable only, sealing can protect
> > them from ever changing or unmapped during the life time of the process.
> > For complete descriptions of memory sealing, please see mseal.rst [1].
> >
> > System mappings such as vdso, vvar, and sigpage (for arm) are
> > generated by the kernel during program initialization, and are
> > sealed after creation.
> >
> > Unlike the aforementioned mappings, the uprobe mapping is not
> > established during program startup. However, its lifetime is the same
> > as the process's lifetime [1]. It is sealed from creation.
> >
> > The vdso, vvar, sigpage, and uprobe mappings all invoke the
> > _install_special_mapping() function. As no other mappings utilize this
> > function, it is logical to incorporate sealing logic within
> > _install_special_mapping(). This approach avoids the necessity of
> > modifying code across various architecture-specific implementations.
>
> Some arches unmap VDSO's which mseal prevents, so are those broken now? Did
> you test this?
>
Do you happen to know which arch might unmap vdso ?

The information I collected so far is only CHECKPOINT_RESTORE would
remap/unmap vdso. And if CHECKPOINT_RESTORE is enabled, Kconfig will
prevent this  from being enabled.

> >
> > The vsyscall mapping, which has its own initialization function, is
> > sealed in the XONLY case, it seems to be the most common and secure
> > case of using vsyscall.
> >
> > It is important to note that the CHECKPOINT_RESTORE feature (CRIU) may
> > alter the mapping of vdso, vvar, and sigpage during restore
> > operations. Consequently, this feature cannot be universally enabled
> > across all systems. To address this, a kernel configuration option has
> > been introduced to enable or disable this functionality.
> >
> > [1] Documentation/userspace-api/mseal.rst
> > [2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/CABi2SkU9BRUnqf70-nksuMCQ+yyiWjo3fM4XkRkL-NrCZxYAyg@mail.gmail.com/
>
> I don't see any mention to testing, and this affects multiple different
> architectures.
>
> Please describe what testing you performed and on what architectures.
>
The tests are done in ChromeOS and Android on ARM and INTEL.

> I suggest we allow this only for architectures you have explicitly tested,
> especially as this is 'hidden' from arch maintainers who might find this
> change surprising.
>
I thought the current approach aligns with Linus's suggestion of
unifying vdso/vvar code [1]. I honestly think this is not architecture
dependent, i.e. this doesn't require any specific CPU feature.

I could add  ARCH_HAS_SEAL_SYSTEM_MAPPINGS in KCONFIG and enable this
for x86_64 and arm64 for now, this would allow other architecture
maintainers to have opportunities to test this .

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAHk-=wgTXVMBRuya5J0peujSrtunehRtzk=WVrm6njPhHrpTJw@mail.gmail.com/

Thanks for reviewing.


-Jeff

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