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Message-ID: <202504181307.254F81843@keescook>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2025 13:13:20 -0700
From: Kees Cook <kees@...nel.org>
To: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@...cle.com>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>,
	Sergio Perez Gonzalez <sperezglz@...il.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] slab: Decouple slab_debug and no_hash_pointers

On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 11:15:11PM +0900, Harry Yoo wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 10:02:33AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > Some system owners use slab_debug=FPZ (or similar) as a hardening option,
> > but do not want to be forced into having kernel addresses exposed due
> > to the implicit "no_hash_pointers" boot param setting.[1]
> 
> Is this behavior documented somewhere or it's only in the code?
> I couldn't find anything other than the code.

Hmm, that's an excellent point. I don't see any mention of it in
kernel-parameters.txt. Perhaps this?

diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
index 4568572205ee..982e6511a225 100644
--- a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
+++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
@@ -6483,6 +6483,10 @@
 			Documentation/mm/slub.rst.
 			(slub_debug legacy name also accepted for now)
 
+			Using this option implies the "no_hash_pointers"
+			option which can be undone by adding the
+			"hash_pointers=always" option.
+
 	slab_max_order= [MM]
 			Determines the maximum allowed order for slabs.
 			A high setting may cause OOMs due to memory

> 
> > Introduce the "hash_pointers" boot param, which defaults to "auto"
> > (the current behavior), but also includes "always" (forcing on hashing
> > even when "slab_debug=..." is defined), and "never". The existing
> > "no_hash_pointers" boot param becomes an alias for "hash_pointers=never".
> > 
> > This makes it possible to boot with "slab_debug=FPZ hash_pointers=always".
> > 
> > Link: https://github.com/KSPP/linux/issues/368  [1]
> > Fixes: 792702911f58 ("slub: force on no_hash_pointers when slub_debug is enabled")
> > Co-developed-by: Sergio Perez Gonzalez <sperezglz@...il.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Sergio Perez Gonzalez <sperezglz@...il.com>
> > Acked-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>
> > Acked-by: David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@...il.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <kees@...nel.org>
> > ---
> 
> Reviewed-by: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@...cle.com>
> 
> By the way, while this patch does not change existing behavior of
> slub_debug implying no_hash_pointers, kmem_cache_init() is not the only
> place that enables slub_debug_enabled static key.
> 
> Maybe we should update __kmem_cache_create_args() too?
> (in a separate patch)

The state of pointer hashing should not change after boot. (It is
intentionally designed to use __ro_after_init.) Honestly, I'd prefer
that slab_debug was not tied to no_hash_pointers at all...

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook

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