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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 09:49:22 +0200
From: Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@...cle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] slab: Introduce kmalloc_obj() and family
On 08/10/2025 06:20, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2025 at 08:18:28PM +0200, Marco Elver wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 at 19:47, Christoph Lameter (Ampere) <cl@...two.org> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 7 Oct 2025, Kees Cook wrote:
>>> iOS did go the path of creating basically one slab cache for each
>>> "type" of kmalloc for security reasons.
>>>
>>> See https://security.apple.com/blog/towards-the-next-generation-of-xnu-memory-safety/
>
>> We can get something similar to that with:
>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250825154505.1558444-1-elver@google.com/
>> Pending compiler support which is going to become available in a few
>> months (probably).
>> That version used the existing RANDOM_KMALLOC_CACHES choice of 16 slab
>> caches, but there's no fundamental limitation to go higher.
>
> Right -- having compiler support for dealing with types at compile time
> means we can create the slab caches statically (instead of any particular
> fixed number, even the 16 from RANDOM_KMALLOC_CACHES).
Maybe I'm missing the point here, but I think we can already do per-
callsite static caches without specific new compiler support:
struct kmalloc_cache {
const char *type_name;
unsigned long caller;
unsigned int alignment;
unsigned int size;
gfp_t gfp_flags;
// ...
};
extern void *_kmalloc_cache(struct kmalloc_cache *cache);
#define kmalloc_type(type, _gfp_flags) \
({ \
__label__ __here; __here: \
static struct kmalloc_cache \
__attribute__((__section__(".kmalloc_caches"))) \
_cache = { \
.type_name = #type, \
.caller = (unsigned long)&&__here, \
.alignment = alignof(type), \
.size = sizeof(type), \
.gfp_flags = (_gfp_flags), \
}; \
(type *) _kmalloc_cache(&_cache); \
})
struct device {
int name[32];
void *priv;
};
int foo()
{
struct device *dev = kmalloc_type(struct device, GFP_KERNEL);
// ...
}
// initialize all static kmalloc caches during boot if needed
// (requires linker script support)
extern struct kmalloc_cache kmalloc_caches_start[];
extern struct kmalloc_cache kmalloc_caches_end[];
void init_cache(struct kmalloc_cache *)
{
// ...
}
void init_caches()
{
for (struct kmalloc_cache *cache = kmalloc_caches_start;
cache != kmalloc_caches_end; ++cache)
{
init_cache(cache);
}
}
Godbolt for playing with it: https://godbolt.org/z/E1c6q9avn
If you really want just one cache per type, you can funnel all the
callers through a single function (single allocation point)?
Vegard
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