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Message-Id: <1152980121.3114.26.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
Date:	Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:15:21 +0200
From:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
To:	Al Boldi <a1426z@...ab.com>
Cc:	Frank van Maarseveen <frankvm@...nkvm.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <ak@...e.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Don't randomize stack unless current->personality
	permits it

On Sat, 2006-07-15 at 17:09 +0300, Al Boldi wrote:
> Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > On Sat, 2006-07-15 at 14:29 +0300, Al Boldi wrote:
> > > Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > > > > BTW, why does randomize_stack_top() mod against (8192*1024) instead
> > > > > of (8192) like arch_align_stack()?
> > > >
> > > >  because it wants to randomize for 8Mb, unlike arch_align_stack which
> > > > wants to randomize the last 8Kb within this 8Mb ;)
> > >
> > > Randomizing twice?
> >
> > a VMA can only be randomized in 4Kb (well page size) granularity, so the
> > 8Mb randomization can only work in that 4Kb unit, the "second"
> > randomization can work in 16 byte granularity.
> >
> > > There is even a case where a mere rename or running through an extra
> > > shell causes a slowdown.  And that's with randomization turned off.
> >
> > randomization off will slow stuff down yes... you get cache alias
> > contention that way.

a question.. do you have prelink installed/active on your system? that
may very well mess with timings...

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