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Message-Id: <1153000020.8427.16.camel@pmac.infradead.org>
Date:	Sat, 15 Jul 2006 22:47:00 +0100
From:	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>
To:	Albert Cahalan <acahalan@...il.com>
Cc:	arjan@...radead.org, maillist@...55.com, ralf@...ux-mips.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, davem@...emloft.net
Subject: Re: 2.6.18 Headers - Long

On Sat, 2006-07-15 at 17:09 -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> David Woodhouse writes:
> > Kernel headers are _not_ a library of random crap for userspace to 
> > use.

> Don't blame app developers if they go for what is good.
> To stop them, provide the goodness in a sane way.
> (alternately, make the Linux code suck ass more than POSIX) 

Kernel headers are _not_ a library of random crap for userspace to use.

There is no justification for asm/atomic.h being installed
in /usr/include. Especially since, as Arjan points out, it doesn't
actually provide atomic operations in many cases anyway.

However, the kernel is released under a licence which allows you to
re-use code from it if you really want. If you want to provide a
'libkernelstuff', the GPL permits you to do that. The kernel's ABI
headers (and lkml) are not the appropriate place for such a project
though. If you want to do that, take it where the C++ and microkernel
people go.

Btw, your mail client omitted the References: and In-Reply-To: headers
which RFC2822 says it SHOULD have included. On a list with as much
traffic as linux-kernel, that's _very_ suboptimal, because you've
detached your message from the thread to which you replied. Please try
to fix or work around that.

-- 
dwmw2

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