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Message-ID: <44C04F6F.2000906@garzik.org>
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:52:15 -0400
From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@...e.de>
CC: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...elEye.com>,
Ed Lin <ed.lin@...mise.com>,
"linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org>,
hch <hch@...radead.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
akpm <akpm@...l.org>, promise_linux <promise_linux@...mise.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Promise 'stex' driver
Jens Axboe wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 20 2006, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> Jens Axboe wrote:
>>> If I thought that it would ever be updated to use block tagging, I would
>>> not care at all. The motivation to add it from the Promise end would be
>>> zero, as it doesn't really bring any immediate improvements for them. So
>>> it would have to be done by someone else, which means me or you. I don't
>>> have the hardware to actually test it, so unless you do and would want
>>> to do it, chances are looking slim :-)
>>>
>>> It's a bit of a chicken and egg problem, unfortunately. The block layer
>>> tagging _should_ be _the_ way to do it, and as such could be labelled a
>>> requirement. I know that's a bit harsh for the Promise folks, but
>>> unfortunately someone has to pay the price...
>> I think it's highly rude to presume that someone who has so-far been
>> responsive, and responsible, will suddenly not be so. That is not the
>> way to encourage vendors to join the Linux process.
>>
>> They set up an alias for Linux maintainer stuff and have been acting
>> like a maintainer that will stick around. Why punish them for good
>> behavior?
>>
>
> I'm not trying to be rude to annyone, sorry if that is the impression
> you got. I'm just looking at things realistically - the fact is that
> moving to block layer tagging is not something that will benefit
> Promise, so it'd be fairly low on their agenda of things to do. I don't
> mean that in any rude sense, I can completely understand that position.
> Why would you want to change something that works? Hence it's
> reasonable to assume that eg you or I would eventually have to convert
> it.
Did you read the patch that started this thread? Promise has already
demonstrated they are willing to add changes requested by the community,
on top of an already-working driver.
Jeff
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