linux-kernel - Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion

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Message-ID: <44C23671.2030908@sandeen.net>
Date:	Sat, 22 Jul 2006 09:30:09 -0500
From:	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@...deen.net>
To:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>, Hans Reiser <reiser@...esys.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org
 regarding reiser4 inclusion

Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 01:46:18PM -0600, Hans Reiser wrote:
>> Consider what happened with XFS as the article writer mentions.  I met
>> the original XFS team, led by two very senior developers (Jim Grey, and
>> another fellow whose name I am blanking on, forgive me, I learned much
>> from him in just a few conversations).  
> 
> I believe you are referring to Jim Mostek and Steve Lord, and yes,
> they were very talented developers and engineers.  I very much enjoyed
> talking to them at various filesystem and Linux conferences and
> workshops.
> 
>> supervision.  What happened?  They got hassled.  Instead of learning
>> from them, welcoming into our community two very senior developers who
>> knew a lot more than any of us about the topics they chose to speak
>> about, they got hassled, they get ignored, they felt rejected, and left
>> the Linux community forever, never to return.  
> 
> That's hardly what happened.  SGI went through layoffs, and they were
> hit.  See:  http://slashdot.org/articles/01/05/26/0743254.shtml

Jim & Steve were never laid off from SGI.  SGI mgmt -was- smarter than that ;)
Neither account above is 100% correct, but I won't speak further on behalf of 
these gentlemen...

-Eric
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