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Message-ID: <1740.192.167.206.189.1153900740.squirrel@darkstar.linuxpratico.net>
Date:	Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:59:00 +0200 (CEST)
From:	"Luigi Genoni" <genoni@....it>
To:	"David Masover" <ninja@...phack.com>
Cc:	"Hans Reiser" <reiser@...esys.com>,
	"Jeff Garzik" <jeff@...zik.org>, "Theodore Tso" <tytso@....edu>,
	"LKML" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"ReiserFS List" <reiserfs-list@...esys.com>
Subject: Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org 
     regarding reiser4 inclusion




On Wed, July 26, 2006 02:44, David Masover wrote:
> Hans Reiser wrote:
>
>
>> to use as his default.  Now that we paid the 5 year development price tag
>> to get everything as plugins, we can now upgrade in littler pieces than
>> any other FS.  Hmm, I need a buzz phrase, its not extreme programming,
>> maybe "moderate programming".  Does that sound exciting to
>
> Hah!  No, it doesn't sound exciting.
>
>
> Plugins don't work well either, not as a marketing concept.  People have
> had so many bad experiences with plugins, and they're only ever visible when
> you have a bad experience.  Think about it -- missing plugin (so you have to
> download it),
>
marketing?
</joke mode on>
if you do not like the word "plugin" why don't you suggest some alternative?
like "modules"?
</joke mode off>

Seriously, please leave out this kind of marketing. The plugin concept in
reiser4 is probably the most interessant feature I filesystem some users
could need.

>
> Fluid programming?  If you build a solution from the bottom up with
> gravel or large rocks, you leave gaps that are hard to fill without ripping
> off the top layer and redoing it.  But if you can do fluid programming, your
> program just flows around any obstacle, and into every crack / between every
> space (metaphor for new customer requirements)...

probably I do not know english enought well to appraciate this metaphor and
to understand what it means.


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