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Date:	Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:34:11 +0200
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	Bill Davidsen <davidsen@....com>
Cc:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: suspend2 merge history [was Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion]

On Sunday 30 July 2006 14:57, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> >On Saturday 29 July 2006 21:23, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Pavel Machek wrote:
> >>    
> >>
> >>>On Fri 28-07-06 01:22:49, Olivier Galibert wrote:
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 11:42:25PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>So we have 1 submission for review in 11/2004 and 1 submission for -mm
> >>>>>merge in 2006, right?
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>Wrong.  I gave a list of dates at the beginning of the month, do you
> >>>>think I threw dice to get them?
> >>>>
> >>>>And could you explain, as suspend maintainer for the linux kernel, how
> >>>>come code submitted for the first time two years ago and with a much
> >>>>better track record than the in-kernel one is still not in?
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>Because Nigel has too much of code to start with, and refuses to fix
> >>>his design because it would invalidate all the stabilization work.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Why should he invalidate his stabilization work, and what's in need of 
> >>fixing? The suspend in the kernel is great, but suspend2 includes both 
> >>suspend and working resume code as well.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Plus Nigel did not do very good job with submitting those patches.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>They apply, they work. What's not very good about that? Is this being 
> >>blocked because of a spelling error, or did he mess up the indenting on 
> >>"signed off by" or what? I realize you may have something other than the 
> >>download version, but it's been years now.
> >>
> >>I would like to see the working suspend (suspend2) in the kernel, and 
> >>users wanting to debug the resume stuff currently in the kernel could 
> >>get it under EXPERIMENTAL or some such.
> >>
> >You probably don't realize how offensive this is.
> >
> >Actually some people have been working really hard to make the in-kernel
> >code work and you could just respect that.
> >
> By respect I take it you mean "don't call attention to the fact that it 
> doesn't work for many people?"

Sorry, you won't get anywhere by insulting people.  If you want to call
attention to a problem, please file a bug report.

Greetings,
Rafael
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