linux-kernel - Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion

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Message-ID: <20060731193454.GF17206@HAL_5000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
Date:	Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:34:54 -0700
From:	Clay Barnes <clay.barnes@...il.com>
To:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc:	Rudy Zijlstra <rudy@...ons.demon.nl>,
	Adrian Ulrich <reiser4@...nkenlights.ch>,
	vonbrand@....utfsm.cl, ipso@...ppymail.ca, reiser@...esys.com,
	lkml@...productions.com, jeff@...zik.org, tytso@....edu,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, reiserfs-list@...esys.com
Subject: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org
	regarding reiser4 inclusion

On 20:42 Mon 31 Jul     , Alan Cox wrote:
> Ar Llu, 2006-07-31 am 12:17 -0700, ysgrifennodd Clay Barnes:
> > Of course, if ext3 were proven to be more robust against failures, I bet
> > the reiser team would be very interested in all the forensic data you
> > can offer, since, from what I've seen, they are always trying to make
> > reiser as good as possible---in speed, flexability, *and* robustness.
> 
> Its well accepted that reiserfs3 has some robustness problems in the
> face of physical media errors. The structure of the file system and the
> tree basis make it very hard to avoid such problems. XFS appears to have
> managed to achieve both robustness and better data structures. 

Yes, that is true, and I think that's a big motivator for the reiser
team to get reiser4 in a place where people can't say that.  I suspect
that they know that reiserfs's shortcomings in that respect are probably
the biggest deterrent to using that fs, and they'll do everything they
can to prevent such a problem in reiser4.  That's pure conjecture based
on the stuff I see on the list, so if I'm wrong, reiser people, please
correct me.

--Clay

> 
> How reiser4 compares I've no idea. 
> 
> Alan
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