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Message-Id: <200608011428.k71ESIuv007094@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl>
Date:	Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:28:18 -0400
From:	"Horst H. von Brand" <vonbrand@....utfsm.cl>
To:	Bernd Schubert <bernd-schubert@....de>
cc:	reiserfs-list@...esys.com, Jan-Benedict Glaw <jbglaw@...-owl.de>,
	Clay Barnes <clay.barnes@...il.com>,
	Rudy Zijlstra <rudy@...ons.demon.nl>,
	Adrian Ulrich <reiser4@...nkenlights.ch>,
	vonbrand@....utfsm.cl, ipso@...ppymail.ca, reiser@...esys.com,
	lkml@...productions.com, jeff@...zik.org, tytso@....edu,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion 

Bernd Schubert <bernd-schubert@....de> wrote:
> On Monday 31 July 2006 21:29, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
> > The point is that it's quite hard to really fuck up ext{2,3} with only
> > some KB being written while it seems (due to the
> > fragile^Wsophisticated on-disk data structures) that it's just easy to
> > kill a reiser3 filesystem.

> Well, I was once very 'luckily' and after a system crash (*) e2fsck put
> all files into lost+found. Sure, I never experienced this again, but I
> also never experienced something like this with reiserfs. So please, stop
> this kind of FUD against reiser3.6.

It isn't FUD. One data point doesn't allow you to draw conclusions.

Yes, I've seen/heard of ext2/ext3 failures and data loss too. But at least
the same number for ReiserFS. And I know it is outnumbered 10 to 1 or so in
my sample, so that would indicate at a 10 fold higher probability of
catastrophic data loss, other factors mostly the same.

> While filesystem speed is nice, it also would be great if reiser4.x would be 
> very robust against any kind of hardware failures.

Can't have both.
-- 
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