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Message-Id: <1154906032.3054.146.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
Date:	Mon, 07 Aug 2006 01:13:51 +0200
From:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
To:	Shem Multinymous <multinymous@...il.com>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>, rlove@...ve.org, khali@...ux-fr.org,
	gregkh@...e.de, alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, hdaps-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/12] thinkpad_ec: New driver for ThinkPad embedded
	controller access

On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 01:41 +0300, Shem Multinymous wrote:
> Hi Arjan,
> 
> On 8/6/06, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org> wrote:
> > Open source is all about trust. Person A takes a patch from person B
> > because person A has trust in B (conditional on the patch meeting a
> > technical standard). In B's technical ability, in B's intentions, in B's
> > sincerity, in B's honesty when he says "this is my work and you can use
> > it because nobody but me has a claim on this".
> 
> Excellent points.
> 
> 
> > Using a fake name is not a good way to gain such trust... At all.
> > Explicitly refusing to say who you really are just lowers the trust even
> > more, because it gives a strong appearance that something really fishy
> > is going on.
> 
> Agreed. But this is only a heuristic; maybe in this case nothing fishy
> is going on, whereas many nice-looking patches would reek to heaven if
> inspected more closely.

yes it's only a heuristic. But at this point in time your stuff has a
smell to it, especially due to your reluctance to resolve/debunk the
issue. So while you're right it's not always clear cut... in this case I
think it pretty much is until you decide to clear things up. As far as
I'm concerned the ball is in your court; you obviously have the power
and opportunity to quickly resolve this and show there's no fish behind
door number 2. Continuing to hide isn't helping to convince us that
there is no dead sea creature.


-- 
if you want to mail me at work (you don't), use arjan (at) linux.intel.com

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