linux-kernel - Re: [KJ] [patch] fix common mistake in polling loops

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Message-ID: <20060807233453.GK2759@elf.ucw.cz>
Date:	Tue, 8 Aug 2006 01:34:53 +0200
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@...e.cz>
To:	Darren Jenkins <darrenrjenkins@...il.com>, torvalds@...l.org
Cc:	Zed 0xff <zed.0xff@...il.com>, kernel-janitors@...l.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [KJ] [patch] fix common mistake in polling loops

Hi!

> >> Well, whoever wrote thi has some serious problems (in attitude
> >> department). *Any* loop you design may take half a minute under
> >> streange circumstances.
> 
> 6.
> common mistake in polling loops [from Linus]:

Yes, Linus was wrong here. Or more precisely, he's right original code
is broken, but his suggested "fix" is worse than the original.

	unsigned long timeout = jiffies + HZ/2;
	for (;;) {
		if (ready())
			return 0;
[IMAGINE HALF A SECOND DELAY HERE]	
		if (time_after(timeout, jiffies))
			break;
		msleep(10);
	}

Oops.

> >Actually it may be broken, depending on use. In some cases this loop
> >may want to poll the hardware 50 times, 10msec appart... and your loop
> >can poll it only once in extreme conditions.
> >
> >Actually your loop is totally broken, and may poll only once (without
> >any delay) and then directly timeout :-P -- that will break _any_
> >user.
> 
> The Idea is that we are checking some event in external hardware that
> we know will complete in a given time (This time is not dependant on
> system activity but is fixed). After that time if the event has not
> happened we know something has borked.

But you have to make sure YOU CHECK READY AFTER THE TIMEOUT. Linus'
code does not do that.
								Pavel
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