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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0608090842040.11585@yvahk01.tjqt.qr>
Date:	Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:47:17 +0200 (MEST)
From:	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...ux01.gwdg.de>
To:	Lee Revell <rlrevell@...-job.com>
cc:	Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>, Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@...e.de>,
	Alexey Zaytsev <alexey.zaytsev@...il.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, matti.aarnio@...iler.org
Subject: Re: Time to forbid non-subscribers from posting to the list?

>> > Tag subject lines from non subscribes with [nonsub] and everyone can
>> > then decide for themselves.
>> 
>> This looks like a very clever yet simple idea (if easy to implement at all) !
>> While I have no anti-spam and am not annoyed at all by the low spam rate on
>> LKML, I think this would make my cleaning operations even more effective.

+1


>That would mean 8 fewer characters of useful information visible in the
>subject line.

For those who use a graphical client this should not be a problem, pixels 
are plenty. For 80x25 readers, well, I can only suggest to use an index 
listing optimized to your needs. For example, the default pine listing 
left too few space for the subject for me on LKML, so I changed it to be 
like

(index-format=MSGNO STATUS SUBJECT FROM SMARTTIME SIZENARROW)

314   D   | | |-Re: Time to forbid non-subscri Andi Kleen          Tue02pm  (3K)
315     . | |-Re: Time to forbid non-subscribe Alan Cox            Tue03pm  (3K)
316     . |   |-Re: Time to forbid non-subscri Willy Tarreau       Tue09pm  (3K)
317     . |     |-Re: Time to forbid non-subsc Lee Revell          Tue04pm  (3K)
318       |       |-Re: Time to forbid non-sub Kyle Moffett        Tue05pm  (3K)
319   N   |-Re: Time to forbid non-subscribers David Miller        Tue03pm  (2K)

Since a lot of mails are already prefixed with something [], like [PATCH], 
I do not really mind if there's [nonsub], or if you like to keep it short, 
you can make that [NSUB], and it even outperforms [PATCH] wrt. length.

Then it would only take the key sequence ;ts[NSUB]<Enter>adx to kill all 
the nonsub messages. However, I would also be fine with an extra header in 
the mail header saying "this comes from a non-subscriber", the key seq in 
pine would be slightly bigger though, 
";thMajordomo-Info<Enter>nonsub<Enter>adx".


Jan Engelhardt
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