linux-kernel - Re: [Alsa-user] another in kernel alsa update that breaks backward compatibilty?

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Message-ID: <20060809163327.GB12571@mars.ravnborg.org>
Date:	Wed, 9 Aug 2006 18:33:27 +0200
From:	Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>
To:	Sergei Steshenko <steshenko_sergei@...t.ru>
Cc:	Benoit Fouet <benoit.fouet@...plelabs.com>,
	Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@...izon.net>,
	alsa-user@...ts.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] another in kernel alsa update that breaks backward compatibilty?

On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 07:17:48PM +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 18:00:43 +0200
> Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 05:56:57PM +0200, Benoit Fouet wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Demand stable ABI.
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > sorry for the noise, but it's been a while now since i began reading
> > > mails from this list, and i must admit i don't always (never?) see the
> > > point of such messages...
> > > if you can help me understand, i'll be very happy to get something more
> > > detailed from you...
> > Documentation/stable_api_nonsense.txt
> > 
> > 	Sam
> > 
> 
> I love senselessness and technical incompetence of the document.
> 
> As I was taught at school, to prove that a statement is wrong one
> has to prove that it is wrong once.
> 
> Regardless of what the document says stable ABI can be achieved
> today - run a chosen Linux kernel version + chosen ALSA version under XEN or
> similar, and assign sound card to these (chosen Linux kernel version +
> chosen ALSA version).
Your focus is on user<->kernel API. The document is about kernel
internal API. Thats two different things and it was not clear if the
first poster was pointing at one or the other.

user<->kernel API is supposed to be stable - if ALSA breaks that then
ALSA has something to fix.

	Sam
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