Message-ID: <62411.194.109.238.121.1155148442.squirrel@194.109.238.121>
Date:	Wed, 9 Aug 2006 20:34:02 +0200 (CEST)
From:	"Indan Zupancic" <indan@....nu>
To:	"Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
Cc:	"Daniel Phillips" <phillips@...gle.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/9] deadlock prevention core

On Wed, August 9, 2006 16:00, Peter Zijlstra said:
> On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 15:48 +0200, Indan Zupancic wrote:
>> On Wed, August 9, 2006 14:54, Peter Zijlstra said:
>> > On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 14:02 +0200, Indan Zupancic wrote:
>> >>  That avoids lots of checks and should guarantee that the
>> >> accounting is correct, except in the case when the IFF_MEMALLOC flag is
>> >> cleared and the counter is set to zero manually. Can't that be avoided and
>> >> just let it decrease to zero naturally?
>> >
>> > That would put the atomic op on the free path unconditionally, I think
>> > davem gets nightmares from that.
>>
>> I confused SOCK_MEMALLOC with sk_buff::memalloc, sorry. What I meant was
>> to unconditionally decrement the reserved usage only when memalloc is true
>> on the free path. That way all skbs that increased the reserve also decrease
>> it, and the counter should never go below zero.
>
> OK, so far so good, except we loose the notion of getting memory back
> from regular skbs.

I don't understand this, regular skbs don't have anything to do with
rx_reserve_used as far as I can see. I'm only talking about keeping
that field up to date and correct. rx_reserve_used is only increased
by a skb when memalloc is set to true on that skb, so only if that field
is set rx_reserve_used needs to be reduced when the skb is freed.

Why is it needed for the protocol specific code to call dev_unreserve_skb?

Only problem is if the device can change. rx_reserve_used should probably
be updated when that happens, as a skb can't use reserved memory on a device
it was moved away from. (right?)

>> Also as far as I can see it should be possible to replace all atomic
>> "if (unlikely(dev_reserve_used(skb->dev)))" checks witha check if
>> memalloc is set. That should make davem happy, as there aren't any
>> atomic instructions left in hot paths.
>
> dev_reserve_used() uses atomic_read() which isn't actually a LOCK'ed
> instruction, so that should not matter.

Perhaps, but the main reason to check memalloc instead of using
dev_reserve_used is because the latter doesn't tell which skb did the
reservation.

>> If IFF_MEMALLOC is set new skbs set memalloc and increase the reserve.
>
> Not quite, if IFF_MEMALLOC is set new skbs _could_ get memalloc set. We
> only fall back to alloc_pages() if the regular path fails to alloc. If the
> skb is backed by a page (as opposed to kmem_cache fluff) sk_buff::memalloc
> is set.

Yes, true. But doesn't matter for the rx_reserve_used accounting, as long as
memalloc set means that it did increase rx_reserve_used.

> Also, I've been thinking (more pain), should I not up the reserve for
> each SOCK_MEMALLOC socket.

Up rx_reserve_used or the total ammount of reserved memory? Probably 'no' for
both though, as it's either device specific or skb dependent.

I'm slowly getting a clearer image of the big picture, I'll take another look
when you post the updated code.

Greetings,

Indan


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