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Message-Id: <1156200259.6479.74.camel@linuxchandra>
Date:	Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:44:19 -0700
From:	Chandra Seetharaman <sekharan@...ibm.com>
To:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc:	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>, ckrm-tech@...ts.sourceforge.net,
	Andi Kleen <ak@...e.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Andrey Savochkin <saw@...ru>, hugh@...itas.com,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Kirill Korotaev <dev@...ru>,
	devel@...nvz.org, Pavel Emelianov <xemul@...nvz.org>
Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [RFC][PATCH] UBC: user resource beancounters

On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 23:20 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> Ar Llu, 2006-08-21 am 14:45 -0700, ysgrifennodd Chandra Seetharaman:
> > As I mentioned UBC might be perfect for container resource management,
> > but what I am talking for is resource management _without_ a container.
> 
> There isn't really a difference. UBC counts usage of things. It has to
> know who to charge the thing to but its core concept of the luid isn't a
> container, its more akin to the a departmental or project billing code.

I didn't say it is different. The way it is implemented now has some
restrictions for generic resource management purposes (like ability to
move task around), but they are not a problem for container type usage.
 
> 
> > > 3. is it so BIG obstacle for UBC patch? These 3-lines hooks code which
> > >    is not used?
> 
> Add them later when they prove to be needed. If IBM send a feature that
> needs it then add them in that feature. Everyone is happy it is possible
> to add that hook when needed.

As I mentioned in my reply, I am ok with adding it later.

>  
> > In a non-container situation IMO it will be easier to manage/associate
> > "gold", "silver", "bronze", "plastic" groups than 0, 11, 83 and 113.
> 
> User space issue. Doing that in kernel will lead to some limitations
> later on and end up needing the user space anyway. Consider wanting to
> keep the container name and properties in LDAP.
> 
> 
> 
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