linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] MODULE_FIRMWARE for binary firmware(s)

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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0608301119170.31356@qynat.qvtvafvgr.pbz>
Date:	Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:20:53 -0700 (PDT)
From:	David Lang <dlang@...italinsight.com>
To:	Sven Luther <sven.luther@...adoo.fr>
cc:	Olaf Hering <olaf@...fle.de>, Michael Buesch <mb@...sch.de>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>, Oleg Verych <olecom@...wer.upol.cz>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...eleye.com>,
	debian-kernel@...ts.debian.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MODULE_FIRMWARE for binary firmware(s)

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Sven Luther wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 10:52:02AM -0700, David Lang wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Olaf Hering wrote:
>>
>>>> you are assuming that
>>>>
>>>> 1. modules are enabled and ipw2200 is compiled as a module
>>>
>>> No, why?
>>
>> becouse if the ipw isn't compiled as a module then it's initialized
>> (without firmware) before the initramfs or initrd is run. if it could be
>> initialized later without being a module then it could be initialized as
>> part of the normal system
>
> Euh, ...
>
> I wonder why you need to initialize the ipw2200 module so early ? It was my
> understanding that the initramfs thingy was run very early in the process, and
> i had even thought of moving fbdev modules into it.
>
> Do you really need to bring up ipw2200 so early ? It is some kind of wireless
> device, right ?

if modules are not in use the device is initialized when the kernel starts up. 
this is before any userspace starts.

> As for initramfs, you can just cat it behind the kernel, and it should work
> just fine, or at least this is how it was supposed to work.

yes, if I want to set one up.

other then this new requirement to have the ipw2200 driver as a module I have no 
reason to use one. normal userspace is good enough for me.

David Lang

> Friendly,
>
> Sven Luther
>
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