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Message-Id: <20060831174408.5ef9a143.rdunlap@xenotime.net>
Date:	Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:44:08 -0700
From:	"Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@...otime.net>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>
Cc:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: prevent swsusp with PAE

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:16:15 -0700 Andrew Morton wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:05:46 -0700
> "Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@...otime.net> wrote:
> 
> > > > I think what this really points at is a weakness in the menuconfig/xconfig/etc
> > > > user interfaces.  It should be possible to navigate to the presently-disabled
> > > > config option and ask it "why can't I turn you on?".
> > > 
> > > Yes, but I'll still have users asking me "why I can't turn it on" ;-).
> > 
> > menuconfig and xconfig both have Help and Search that can aid
> > with that, but I would still use the "comment" keyword also.
> 
> Help and Search options aren't much use if you cannot see the option and if
> you do not know that it exists.
> 
> A better UI design would be to show the unselectable option in some
> dimmed-out fashion and then provide an interface which permits the user to
> 
> a) query the item to find out why it's not selectable and
> 
> b) turn on the depends-on option(s) at the present site, thus making the
>    present item selectable (ie: not dimmed any more).
> 
> I dont't think any of that would require any Kconfig changes - it's purely
> a UI thing?

Probably.  xconfig already has this ability/feature.
I enable/use it all the time.  menuconfig could probably be
taught how to do it also.  (and gconfig seems to be orphaned)

---
~Randy
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