linux-kernel - [OT] RE: bogofilter ate 3/5

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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609070857310.31500@turbotaz.ourhouse>
Date:	Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:01:23 -0500 (CDT)
From:	Chase Venters <chase.venters@...entec.com>
To:	Stuart MacDonald <stuartm@...necttech.com>
cc:	'Chase Venters' <chase.venters@...entec.com>,
	'Krzysztof Halasa' <khc@...waw.pl>, ellis@...nics.net,
	'Willy Tarreau' <w@....eu>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: [OT] RE: bogofilter ate 3/5

On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Stuart MacDonald wrote:

> From: On Behalf Of Chase Venters
>> You can check the From: or envelope sender against the subscriber
>> database. Forgery isn't a concern because we're not trying to stop
>> forgery with this method. Subscribers subscribing one address
>
> Forgery is always a concern...
>
>> The perl script behaves as an optional autoresponder.
>> Autoresponders would
>> respond to spam as well (well, unless you put a spam filter
>> in front of
>> them, but I assume that many don't).
>
> ..because autoresponders are always replying to forged addresses:
> http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/329.html
>
>> Also note that a number of people (myself included, at work
>> anyway) have
>> perl scripts that respond to all incoming mail and require a
>> reply cookie from original
>> envelope senders. We do it because it almost entirely
>> prevents spam from
>> arriving in our inboxes (I say almost because there is the occasional
>
> Autoresponder by another name, see above URL.

Fortunately, the bulk of bulk mail I receive these days is forged but not 
forged from legitimate users. To give you an example from my daily log 
(which is e-mailed to me so I can keep an eye on the insanity):

2006-09-06T06:25:11 -- Challenged 'Beliefnet Daily Inspiration 
<BeliefnetDailyInspiration@...tner.beliefnet.com>'
2006-09-06T06:40:23 -- Challenged '"newsletters@...mmers.com" 
<newsletters@...mmers.com>'
2006-09-06T09:56:13 -- Challenged '"LexingtonLawBringsYou" 
<LexingtonLawBringsYou@...dchristmastree.net>'
2006-09-06T12:25:34 -- Challenged '"OFFER  CONFIRMATION." 
<slt@...tective-vehicle.com>'
2006-09-06T12:30:39 -- Challenged '"Rate Alert!" 
<LocalRate@...uiredinstallation.com>'
2006-09-06T12:57:54 -- Challenged '"Rate Alert!" 
<LocalRate@...derful-scholar.com>'
2006-09-06T12:57:56 -- Challenged '"OFFER  CONFIRMATION." 
<slt@...ated-polymer.com>'
2006-09-06T13:08:02 -- Challenged '"PlatinumRewardsClubEmailOffers" 
<PlatinumRewardsClubEmailOffers@...itarygroup.com>'
2006-09-06T13:34:18 -- Challenged '"CellPhoneGiveawaysNetDeals" 
<CellPhoneGiveawaysNetDeals@...lbillymaryann.com>'
2006-09-06T13:39:23 -- Challenged '"Barber" <lpb@...eredrevenue.com>'
2006-09-06T13:59:36 -- Challenged '"Barber" <lpb@...eredrevenue.com>'
2006-09-06T14:08:44 -- Challenged '"LifeScript Healthy Advantage" 
<LifeScriptHealthyAdvantage@...escript.com>'
2006-09-06T14:27:00 -- Challenged 'FS Report <freeinkplus@...ly.mb00.net>'
2006-09-06T14:46:12 -- Challenged '"OFFER_C0NFIRMATI0N!" 
<ndc@...ferentirradiation.com>'
2006-09-06T15:07:26 -- Challenged '"Maureen&Team" <maureen@...jwire.com>'
2006-09-06T15:07:27 -- Delivered message from 'Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen 
<jaervosz@...too.org>' (whitelist)
2006-09-06T15:09:30 -- Challenged '"BHG.com 
Kitchen"<Recipe@...il.bhg.com>'
2006-09-06T15:11:40 -- Challenged '"1 2 3  I n k Jets" 
<ikj@...sequent-grievance.com>'

If these challenges bounce (_many_ of them do), the box and host end up on 
the blacklist.

> ..Stu
>
>

Thanks,
Chase
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