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Message-ID: <08ec01c6d2c1$67e43d10$294b82ce@stuartm>
Date:	Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:05:53 -0400
From:	"Stuart MacDonald" <stuartm@...necttech.com>
To:	"'Chase Venters'" <chase.venters@...entec.com>
Cc:	"'Krzysztof Halasa'" <khc@...waw.pl>, <ellis@...nics.net>,
	"'Willy Tarreau'" <w@....eu>, <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: bogofilter ate 3/5

From: Chase Venters [mailto:chase.venters@...entec.com] 
> What are you implying - that SpamCop doesn't make decisions 
> about who to 
> block and who to not block for third parties? Their weasel wording 

It's not an implication, it's a fact.

> I will strongly criticize any service that purports to label 
> senders of 
> automatic responses as senders of unsolicited mail. The 

What would you call it then when I receive a bounce/etc that is in
reponse to a message someone else sent? I certainly never solicited
that.

Perhaps you could send me your snail mail address; I'll solicit some
junk mail but put your address down. But don't call it junk mail when
you receive it, because it was solicited!

> And on the specific issue of autoresponders, I think a reasonable 
> compromise is to support DomainKeys. That way if a sender is 
> irritated 
> that they are receiving automatic responses from messages they didn't 
> send, they can personally take action to invalidate the forgery.

IMO one should never have to receive "automatic responses from
messages they didn't send".

> But mark my words: Asking hosts to stop sending bounce messages or 
> automatic responses is insane and contrary to over a decade 
> of established 
> postmaster precedent.

Things change.

..Stu

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