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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0609081824190.8280-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
Date:	Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:25:24 -0400 (EDT)
From:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
To:	Oliver Neukum <oliver@...kum.org>
cc:	paulmck@...ibm.com, David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Uses for memory barriers

On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Oliver Neukum wrote:

> > Again you have misunderstood.  The original code was _not_ incorrect.  I 
> > was asking: Given the code as stated, would the assertion ever fail?
> 
> I claim the right to call code that fails its own assertions incorrect. :-)

Touche!

> > The code _was_ correct for my purposes, namely, to illustrate a technical 
> > point about the behavior of memory barriers.
> 
> I would say that the code may fail the assertion purely based
> on the formal definition of a memory barrier. And do so in a subtle
> and inobvious way.

But what _is_ the formal definition of a memory barrier?  I've never seen 
one that was complete and correct.

Alan Stern

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