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Message-Id: <1158151535.2560.20.camel@localhost>
Date:	Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:45:35 +0200
From:	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@...ibm.com>
To:	Hubertus Franke <frankeh@...son.ibm.com>
Cc:	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	virtualization@...ts.osdl.org, akpm@...l.org,
	nickpiggin@...oo.com.au, rhim@...gateh.edu
Subject: Re: [patch 1/9] Guest page hinting: unused / free pages.

On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 08:06 -0400, Hubertus Franke wrote:
> Martin Schwidefsky wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 21:29 -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > 
> >>Note that the transition _to_ volatile can also be batched
> >>and done somewhat lazily.  For frequently mmaped pages that
> >>could end up saving us the transition the other way, too...
> > 
> > 
> > That would be helpful, only how to do it? We need some sort of list or
> > array where to store the pages that should be made volatile. The main
> > problem that I see is that you have to remove a page that is freed from
> > the list/array again, otherwise you would end up with a non page-cache
> > page being made volatile. That makes using per-cpu arrays hard since a
> > page can be freed on another cpu.
> > 
> 
> 
> Martin. the point was that pages
> which are in the hold/cold lists are technically free.
> However we keep them stable.
> When the hot/cold list is spilled back to the buddy allocator
> we make them volatile in buld (i.e. through the array).

You mean unused.

> So we only build the array for the duration of the bulk-release
> to the buddy allocator (and potentially the other way as well).
> Hence there is no "state" to maintain or track for the array.
> Pages in the hot/cold lists remain stable.
> This would not any of the problems you described as long as we hold
> the lock for the hot/cold list during buld-volatile.

I was not talking about free pages, and I don't think Rik was either.
The idea is to be lazy about the make-volatile calls. Put the pages for
which a make-volatile call should be done to some array/list and do a
bulk make-volatile. These pages are still in the page/swap cache. The
trouble is we have to be sure these pages have not been freed in the
meantime.

The bulk set-unused/set-stable to the buddy allocator should not be to
problematic. We just have to find new places where to do the calls.

-- 
blue skies,
  Martin.

Martin Schwidefsky
Linux for zSeries Development & Services
IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH

"Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin.


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