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Message-ID: <y0mmz92cjr2.fsf@ton.toronto.redhat.com>
Date:	14 Sep 2006 15:48:17 -0400
From:	fche@...hat.com (Frank Ch. Eigler)
To:	"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@...igh.org>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...e.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Tom Zanussi <zanussi@...ibm.com>, ltt-dev@...fik.org,
	Michel Dagenais <michel.dagenais@...ymtl.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/11] LTTng-core (basic tracing infrastructure) 0.5.108

"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@...igh.org> writes:

> [...] What would be really nice is one trace infrastructure, that
> allowed both static and dynamic tracepoints

We in systemtap land hope to encounter *some* static tracepoint
structure, perhaps like the one I presented at OLS, via which
systemtap could become your unified static+dynamic "infrastructure".
Even in that universe, using LTT-derived code for high-performance
tracing is within the realm of reason.

> without all the awk-style language crap that seems to come with
> systemtap.

I'm sorry to hear you dislike the scripting language.  But that's
okay, you Real Men can embed literal C code inside systemtap scripts
to do the Real Work, and leave to systemtap only sundry duties such as
probe placement and removal.

- FChE
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