linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/11] LTTng-core (basic tracing infrastructure) 0.5.108

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Message-ID: <20060914200040.GB5812@elte.hu>
Date:	Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:00:40 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Tim Bird <tim.bird@...sony.com>
Cc:	Roman Zippel <zippel@...ux-m68k.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...e.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Tom Zanussi <zanussi@...ibm.com>, ltt-dev@...fik.org,
	Michel Dagenais <michel.dagenais@...ymtl.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/11] LTTng-core (basic tracing infrastructure) 0.5.108

* Tim Bird <tim.bird@...sony.com> wrote:

> > that's not true, and this is the important thing that i believe you 
> > are missing. A dynamic tracepoint is _detached_ from the normal 
> > source code and thus is zero maintainance overhead. You dont have to 
> > maintain it during normal development - only if you need it. You 
> > dont see the dynamic tracepoints in the source code.
> 
> It's only zero maintenance overhead for you.  Someone has to maintain 
> it. The party line for years has been that in-tree maintenance is 
> easier than out-of-tree maintenance.

There's a third option, and that's the one i'm advocating: adding the 
tracepoint rules to the kernel, but in a _detached_ form from the actual 
source code.

yes, someone has to maintain it, but that will be a detached effort, on 
a low-frequency as-needed basis. It doesnt slow down or hinder 
high-frequency fast prototyping work, it does not impact the source code 
visually, and it does not make reading the code harder. Furthermore, 
while a single broken LTT tracepoint prevents the kernel from building 
at all, a single broken dynamic rule just wont be inserted into the 
kernel. All the other rules are still very much intact.

	Ingo
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