linux-kernel - Re: [patch 3/9] Guest page hinting: volatile page cache.

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Message-Id: <1158309400.23993.9.camel@localhost>
Date:	Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:36:39 +0200
From:	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@...ibm.com>
To:	Zachary Amsden <zach@...are.com>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, virtualization@...ts.osdl.org,
	akpm@...l.org, nickpiggin@...oo.com.au, frankeh@...son.ibm.com,
	rhim@...gateh.edu
Subject: Re: [patch 3/9] Guest page hinting: volatile page cache.

On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 02:23 -0700, Zachary Amsden wrote:
> Martin Schwidefsky wrote
> > The discard fault happens on access to a volatile that has been
> > discarded. An important property of the s390 architecture comes into
> > play here: there are two page tables, a guest page table and a host page
> > table. What the guest perceives as its "physical" memory is in virtual
> > storage for the host. An address resolution has to walk two pages
> > tables, if a pte is invalid in either table you get a fault. A guest
> > fault if the invalid pte is in the guest table and a host fault if it is
> >   
> 
> Yes, I'm familiar with that trick.  Wasn't sure if you had it in 
> hardware or not.

The mainframes have that trick in hardware for about 30 years ..

> > in the host table. That gives s390 a simple method to implement
> > discarded pages: the hypervisor just unmaps the page from the host table
> > and changes the state of the guest page. I can see that you will have a
> > much harder time to implement this on i386.
> >   
> 
> Nah, I think we'll do just fine.

I wonder which trick you use, since there is only one page table one
i386 I can only imagine that you are tracking all page tables of the
guest.

> Thanks for the info - based on this, I think we can probably use the 
> volatile page / swap cache changes as well for VMware, also pretty much 
> unchanged.  Sorry to take so long to look at these patches, BTW - I was 
> on holiday for two weeks.

I've been sitting on these patches for months now and you are worrying
about two weeks..

-- 
blue skies,
  Martin.

Martin Schwidefsky
Linux for zSeries Development & Services
IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH

"Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin.


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