linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/11] LTTng-core (basic tracing infrastructure) 0.5.108

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Message-ID: <450EBD33.7050202@opersys.com>
Date:	Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:37:23 -0400
From:	Karim Yaghmour <karim@...rsys.com>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
CC:	Jes Sorensen <jes@....com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...e.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Tom Zanussi <zanussi@...ibm.com>, ltt-dev@...fik.org,
	Michel Dagenais <michel.dagenais@...ymtl.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/11] LTTng-core (basic tracing infrastructure) 0.5.108


Trust me, I don't intend to drag this any longer. I just want to make
sure this issue of "respect" is cleared up.

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> i'm giving up on Karim too. I did apologize to Karim for the mistake i 
> did in this thread-of-200-mails, but it's revolting to see that Karim 
> still goes on and attacks top Linux contributors like you, without 
> looking back, without apologizing for anything and without feeling any 
> remorse.

If there exists a cult where top contributors are to be venerated, then
I'm not part of it. If my calling individuals to account on their supposed
expertise on tracing, which they use as justification for continued
marginalization of such related projects, has generated so much backlash,
then it is for me but a sign of how entrenched arrogance can be in some
quarters.

Don't get wrong, I have immense respect for the collective talent of
kernel developers. But no matter how broad collective talent can be, it
cannot be omniscient.

> Karim patronized, attacked and insulted various people dozens 
> of times in this thread alone. I just dont see any value in trying to 
> "work with" Karim anymore, because it's apparently not something he is 
> interested in doing. I feel a bit sorry for him too, because at heart he 
> must be a deeply lonely person.

Ditto.

> single patch, not a oneliner fix, nothing. So if someone needs to prove 
> his experience in embedded Linux matters on this forum then it's Karim.

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/belinuxsys/

Karim
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