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Date:	Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:51:35 -0700
From:	Chandra Seetharaman <sekharan@...ibm.com>
To:	Kirill Korotaev <dev@...ru>
Cc:	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>, Srivatsa <vatsa@...ibm.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	CKRM-Tech <ckrm-tech@...ts.sourceforge.net>, balbir@...ibm.com,
	Dave Hansen <haveblue@...ibm.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@...e.de>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Andrey Savochkin <saw@...ru>,
	Matt Helsley <matthltc@...ibm.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@...itas.com>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...l.ru>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...sign.ru>, devel@...nvz.org,
	Pavel Emelianov <xemul@...nvz.org>
Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [PATCH] BC: resource beancounters (v4) (added	user
	memory)

On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 12:49 +0400, Kirill Korotaev wrote:
> > <snip>
> > 
> >>Reserving in advance means that sometimes you won't be able to start a
> >>new group without taking back some of reserved pages. This is ... strange.
> > 
> > 
> > I do not see it strange. At the time of creation, user sees the failure
> > (that there isn't enough resource to provide the required/requested
> > guarantee) and can act accordingly.
> > 
> > BTW, VMware does it this way.
> This is not true at least for ESX server.

Hmm, from what I have seen, in ESX server, creation of a VM will fail,
if the specified guarantees cannot meet at the time of creation.
 
> It overcommits memory and does dirty tricks like balooning to free memory then.

This is how they handle over commit, which is not what I was talking
about.

<snip>

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    Chandra Seetharaman               | Be careful what you choose....
              - sekharan@...ibm.com   |      .......you may get it.
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