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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609201035240.31464@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
Date:	Wed, 20 Sep 2006 10:38:13 -0700 (PDT)
From:	Christoph Lameter <clameter@....com>
To:	Rohit Seth <rohitseth@...gle.com>
cc:	CKRM-Tech <ckrm-tech@...ts.sourceforge.net>, devel@...nvz.org,
	pj@....com, npiggin@...e.de,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch00/05]: Containers(V2)- Introduction

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006, Rohit Seth wrote:

> cpusets provides cpu and memory NODES binding to tasks.  And I think it
> works great for NUMA machines where you have different nodes with its
> own set of CPUs and memory.  The number of those nodes on a commodity HW
> is still 1.  And they can have 8-16 CPUs and in access of 100G of
> memory.  You may start using fake nodes (untested territory) to

See linux-mm. We just went through a series of tests and functionality 
wise it worked just fine.

> translate a single node machine into N different nodes.  But am not sure
> if this number of nodes can change dynamically on the running machine or
> a reboot is required to change the number of nodes.

This is commonly discussed under the subject of memory hotplug.

> Though when you want to have in access of 100 containers then the cpuset
> function starts popping up on the oprofile chart very aggressively.  And
> this is the cost that shouldn't have to be paid (particularly) for a
> single node machine.

Yes this is a new way of using cpusets but it works and we could fix the 
scalability issues rather than adding new subsystems.

> And what happens when you want to have cpuset with memory that needs to
> be even further fine grained than each node.

New node?

> Containers also provide a mechanism to move files to containers. Any
> further references to this file come from the same container rather than
> the container which is bringing in a new page.

Hmmmm... Thats is interesting.

> In future there will be more handlers like CPU and disk that can be
> easily embeded into this container infrastructure.

I think we should have one container mechanism instead of multiple. Maybe 
merge the two? The cpuset functionality is well established and working 
right.

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