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Date:	Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:26:26 +0200 (CEST)
From:	Roman Zippel <zippel@...ux-m68k.org>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
cc:	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>,
	Martin Bligh <mbligh@...gle.com>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com>,
	prasanna@...ibm.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@...ux-sh.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Jes Sorensen <jes@....com>, Tom Zanussi <zanussi@...ibm.com>,
	Richard J Moore <richardj_moore@...ibm.com>,
	Michel Dagenais <michel.dagenais@...ymtl.ca>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...e.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	William Cohen <wcohen@...hat.com>, ltt-dev@...fik.org,
	systemtap@...rces.redhat.com, Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Linux Markers 0.4 (+dynamic probe loader) for 2.6.17

Hi,

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Ingo Molnar wrote:

> It affects all tracers: SystemTap/LKST has to adapt to such a scheme 
> too, because currently there's no markup scheme in the kernel. So this 
> is not something 'against' LTT, but something /for/ a unified landscape 
> of tracers. (and as i mentioned it before, it will be easy for you to 
> offer a simple "LTT speedup patch", which distros and the upstream 
> kernel can consider separately. But it must be /optional/.)

Out of curiosity: How exactly would it hurt this unifiation, if you left 
some of the implementation details simply to the archs?

> So far i have not seen any real arguments against this simple but 
> fundamental upstream requirement which i pointed out for v0.1 already.

It's funny, after reality sets in, I'll get exactly what I asked for in 
the first place, now I only have to figure out a way to do this without 
getting insulted by almost everyone...

bye, Roman
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