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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609241457250.17306@rhama.deepcore.ngn>
Date:	Sun, 24 Sep 2006 15:18:18 +0300 (EEST)
From:	"Theodoros V. Kalamatianos" <thkala@...tlab.ece.ntua.gr>
To:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
cc:	kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	Linux usb mailing list 
	<linux-usb-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] usb still sucks battery in -rc7-mm1

On Sun, 24 Sep 2006, Pavel Machek wrote:

> I made some quick experiments, and usb still eats 4W of battery
> power. (With whole machine eating 9W, that's kind of a big deal)...
>
> This particular machine has usb bluetooth, but it can be disabled by
> firmware, and appears unplugged. (I did that). It also has fingerprint
> scanner, that can't be disabled, but that does not have driver (only
> driven by useland, and was unused in this experiment).
>
> Any ideas?

(I have not followed the thread, so bear with me if I say anything 
irrelavant)

I have encountered at least 3 hubs (2 usb2 & 1 usb1) that will consume a 
lot of power (about 2-2.5W if the laptop power consumption readings are to 
be trusted) and heat up a lot (to the point of being too hot to touch for 
more than a few seconds) even when no devices are connected, at least on 
Linux. I have not tested them on a Windows machine to see if this is the 
case there. The USB2 ones used Cypress chips. I do not know what your h/w 
config is, but perhaps this is a similar case ?


Regards,

Theodoros Kalamatianos


PS: Note that the 2-2.5W consumption is the maximum that the laptop USB 
port can provide, and I have noticed that with the hub's external power 
supply connected it heats up even more.
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